# The He-Man Woman Hater's Club

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 25, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124 "2025-11-25T16:59:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/41 "2025-11-26T03:39:44Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> What does this say about your parenting?

Blame the victims and protect the Pedophile?  
Are you in the Epstein Files or do you just know Trump from work?

> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Yeesht. How old was the daughter?!?

Maybe 13-14. Scouts are scouts, whatever the gender. But if someone is just sniffing around, it’s creepy as fuck. If the genders were reversed, I’d say it seemed ‘rapey’.

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### Author: ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/42 "2025-11-26T13:43:50Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> Blame the victims and protect the Pedophile?

No, blame the enabler. Because that’s what a parent who lets their kid hang out with a predator, even after they know, is. The victim is your son, and I have a great deal of pity for him, for multiple reasons.

That is, assuming that anything about what you posted is true.

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### Author: ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/43 "2025-11-26T13:53:15Z")

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You know, there’s already [a perfectly good name to use](http://calvinethobbes.free.fr/images/gross3.gif).

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Ongoing lawsuits around sexual abuse, and the cost of defending the BSA organization against them, led to major financial problems (and probably contributed to fewer boys joining); BSA finally declared bankruptcy in 2020.

So you’re saying it wasn’t a very “boy-friendly environment”?

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### Author: ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/44 "2025-11-26T14:50:54Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> Maybe 13-14. Scouts are scouts, whatever the gender. But if someone is just sniffing around, it’s creepy as fuck. If the genders were reversed, I’d say it seemed ‘rapey’.

This is the third time now you’ve used the phrase “sniffing around” to a describe a 13-year old girl whose father brought her to scouting. That’s a _really_ fucking bizarre thing to say about a child. How old were the other kids there and what did she _actually_ do other than be a girl in a group of boys?  
Your posts are not exactly the most decipherable.

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### Author: ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/45 "2025-11-26T15:02:50Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> A friend of mine (though one I met well after the fact) was an Eagle Scout, and got an appointment to the Air Force Academy.

Yeah, based on what I’ve seen the overlap between military and Scouting is not insignificant. Plenty of veterans serving as Scouters at the Council and District levels, if not in troops and packs themselves.

We are very heavy into citizenship and patriotic expression (perhaps a bit much for my taste, to be honest). Always do the flag ceremony and whatnot at Veterans Day assemblies. Tons of physical fitness, service projects, and of course camping and hiking.

Just a very strange target for performative masculinity. Especially for a person (Hegseth) who as far as anybody can tell has never had anything to do with Scouting.

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### Author: ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/46 "2025-11-26T15:26:55Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Especially for a person (Hegseth) who as far as anybody can tell has never had anything to do with Scouting.

Of course not. The Boy Scout Law is that:

> [@](#):
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> A Scout is:
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> - Trustworthy,
> - Loyal,
> - Helpful,
> - Friendly,
> - Courteous,
> - Kind,
> - Obedient,
> - Cheerful,
> - Thrifty,
> - Brave,
> - Clean,
> - and Reverent.

Hegseth fails at all of the above.

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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/47 "2025-11-26T17:33:20Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> No, blame the enabler. Because that’s what a parent who lets their kid hang out with a predator, even after they know, is.

Wrong again. I went to every meeting after that and I made sure he was never alone with him without me being 4 steps away. Maybe this never got past your greasy beard of ignorance but knowing someone is showing signs of being a groomer and proving it are two different things.

Tell me, was it people like you that kept the stories of all those girls abused and raped by Epstein under wraps?

“You must be imagining it, Dear. Are you sure you weren’t just being Hysterical? Where’s your proof? What, they took it from you? You lost it? No pictures? No film? Sounds like you’re lying…”

There are in scouting too many social deflections.

\*I was just kidding  
\*No, I meant the whole troop, you just misunderstood  
\*List one by one what actions you mean ( ie - let me know where I slipped up and my Pedo face was showing)  
\*Why I’ve been in scouting for Years and you don’t even wear a scoutmaster uniform  
\*Here are my four assistants: Bob, Errol, Ted, and Malice. Why don’t you step outside with them while I re-adjust my grooming mask and play ‘offended’.

I wouldn’t let my kid alone without a large group of parents watching and making sure he had no alone time with my kid.

As for you, I’m just glad you never bred… or was that an accident?  
Epstein never had children either.

> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> This is the third time now you’ve used the phrase “sniffing around” to a describe a 13-year old girl whose father brought her to scouting. That’s a _really_ fucking bizarre thing to say about a child. How old were the other kids there and what did she _actually_ do other than be a girl in a group of boys?

Running up and touching the backs of the necks of multiple boys while they were in work groups working on/discussing how to approach their merit badges? Scouts from two years younger to three years older? Literally running up behind them and sniffing the backs of their necks and then running away laughing? It was very bizarre. The scouts did try to complain; some even said “we’re working; could you leave us alone please?” but then she’d look to her father, he’d stare the scout down, and the message was sent.

“He’s my father and I can do anything I want to you.”

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### Author: ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/48 "2025-11-26T17:38:53Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> Wrong again. I went to every meeting after that and I made sure he was never alone with him without me being 4 steps away. Maybe this never got past your greasy beard of ignorance but knowing someone is showing signs of being a groomer and proving it are two different things.

I never said you had to prove it. I said that you should have reported it. Proof is very difficult for ordinary citizens, so you report it to the authorities who have the capability for more investigation. At the very least, you did have proof that he was egregiously violating BSA policies (suggesting a one-on-one camping trip is a major no-no), which would probably have been enough to get him removed as Scoutmaster.

> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> Tell me, was it people like you that kept the stories of all those girls abused and raped by Epstein under wraps?

A peculiar question, coming right after your own account about how you actually did keep stories of a predator under wraps.

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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/49 "2025-11-26T17:57:51Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> A peculiar question, coming right after your own account about how you actually did keep stories of a predator under wraps.

Keep looking at it. I’m sure it, like your reflection in a mirror, will tell you who was protecting a Pedo.

I kept my kid away from a Pedo. Why does that bother you so?

Hmmm.

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### Author: ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/50 "2025-11-26T18:29:01Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> I kept my kid away from a Pedo. Why does that bother you so?

That’s not what you said you did. You said that you kept him in the troop long enough for the guy to suggest a one-on-one trip multiple times, until your son himself lost interest in scouting.

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### Author: ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/51 "2025-11-26T19:42:09Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> You said that you kept him in the troop long enough for the guy to suggest a one-on-one trip multiple times, until your son himself lost interest in scouting.

While denying red flags because the guy was married.

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### Author: ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/52 "2025-11-26T20:25:35Z")

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Guys, come on. You know who you’re arguing with. That’s nothing to gain from engaging with them in this condition.

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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/53 "2025-11-26T20:43:34Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> That’s not what you said you did. You said that you kept him in the troop long enough for the guy to suggest a one-on-one trip multiple times, until your son himself lost interest in scouting.

That’s massive projecting. I didn’t keep him in the troop, he wanted to stay. The one on one suggested the trips twice in 24 hours. I strongly said no each time. I knew my son would lose interest but would fight me on it if I tried to force him. He bailed on scouting w/i a month.

Alta, while fapping with his gun, enters the thread like the Stalker he is.

And yes, Alta, they need to get out of that condition. Maybe if they fap to  
‘Boys Life’ instead of trying to defend Pedophiliacs they’ll return to normalcy.

Or they could memorize verses from some book of some Dead Religion.

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### Author: ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/54 "2025-11-26T20:47:30Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> That’s massive projecting.

We only know what you tell us. The way you worded it in your posts sounds pretty bad, and that’s what people are responding to.

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### Author: ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/55 "2025-11-26T22:59:36Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> Alta, while fapping with his gun, enters the thread like the Stalker he is.
> 
> And yes, Alta, they need to get out of that condition. Maybe if they fap to  
> ‘Boys Life’ instead of trying to defend Pedophiliacs they’ll return to normalcy.

Who are you even talking to?

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### Author: ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/56 "2025-11-26T23:05:27Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Who are you even talking to?

Atamasama, transmogrified into Prof.Morbius’ daughter.

But really, himself.

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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/57 "2025-11-26T23:25:44Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Who are you even talking to?

That was a subject mistake; I was replying to your comment and pasted the wrong name. So yes, you’re the asshole. So nice of you to own up to it. Feel better now?

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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/58 "2025-11-26T23:31:37Z")

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And another ham-fisted thug heard from.

“Hello, Hallmark, do you sell that ‘F.O. and May COVID-Santa Make Your Holidays Joyous and Blessed’ card by the box? Yes I’ll wait while you check the stock room.  
Sold out…? Darn.”

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### Author: ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/59 "2025-11-26T23:37:55Z")

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This has gotten. weird.

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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [November 26, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-he-man-woman-haters-club/1025124/60 "2025-11-26T23:40:42Z")

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When hasn’t ignorance protecting dog-piling on a message board supposedly about removing ignorance been wierd?

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