# The Hearthstone Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 28, 2014, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172 "2014-04-28T07:42:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 128
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2542 "2018-04-23T13:29:24Z")
Seems like both the odd and even legendary guys are worth crafting since I have a ton of dust since there’s a decent variety of decks you can craft with them and likely will be for the coming year. I’m sitting on around 8000 dust - does that seem like a decent way to go? I kinda want to try some sort of odd warrior because I miss armoring up like crazy with my old cthun warrior, but it doesn’t seem to actually be any good. Even and odd paladin both rule the game right now (which really shows that Paladin obviously has some issues) but I feel kinda lame doing flavor of the month netdecks. If I crack only one, which one seems like it’d have the most fun decks? ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2543 "2018-04-23T13:37:39Z")
Go odd. Odd quest warrior is a thing, odd dude paladin and odd aggro rogue are also good. Even handlock is kind of a thing, and even call to arms paladin is a thing, but barely. I don’t even think there are any good even decks, I saw an even miracle rogue but I doubt it’s going to be good in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2544 "2018-04-23T22:46:06Z")
Speaking as someone who’s mainly been screwing around with Genn/even builds, I concur with the cat. There are more classes with decent odd builds, and there’s another issue with even decks: the gameplay is pretty monotonous. Handlock almost always opens tap-tap-tap+2drop-giant or drake; Genn pally almost always starts dude;2-drop;dude+2-drop; whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2545 "2018-04-24T01:00:14Z")
It’s also mathematical - you can play 2 odd drops on an even turn if you don’t want to hero power for whatever reason, but you must hero power on odd turns if you play evens only to maximise mana efficiency. Also, in late game situations, where you have more mana than cards, a more powerful (and hence efficient) hero power is more relevant than a 1 mana hero power. Also, at 10 mana, you will always float mana playing a 1 mana hero power - the discount is irrelevant then. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2546 "2018-05-04T13:54:37Z")
Aggro paladin is boring, but super good. Stonehill defender is a killer card in Paladin decks because the class booster for the random discoveries combined with relatively few paladin taunt cards means you get Teldram or Tirion half the time. Sometimes both or two of one. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2547 "2018-05-15T18:53:43Z")
Fairly [big balance change patch](https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/blog/21758133)coming in. They nibble around Cubelock a bit, but no core changes to Cube/Void/Guldan. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2548 "2018-05-15T23:04:21Z")
Bumping Call to Arms up by one pretty much kills even paladin. Maaaybe you can do something more midrange-y but I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2549 "2018-05-16T00:55:51Z")
I think it’s a fair change to Cubelock, frankly. Will have to drop naked lackey a lot more often, and dark pact doesn’t just beat aggro by itself. All the interesting decisions are still there, it’s still a fine deck I think. Call to Arms got hit HARD but it’s deserved I think. It would probably still even be played in midrange paladin at 5, it’s massively powerful. Mana cheating + deck thinning + ensuring good draws is craaaazy good, and its power level will only go up as new good 1 and 2 drops are printed. Spiteful is a marginal change, I’m not sure if that’s enough. Maybe because I hate it so much, but eh. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2550 "2018-05-30T13:43:03Z")
Does anyone have any recommendations as far as non-hearthstone CCGs go? I’m curious to try others but I don’t know which are worth a shot. Edit: Including how friendly it is to new players. From what I hear, just about every CCG is far more generous to f2p players than hearthstone. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2551 "2018-05-30T14:31:42Z")
Even Shaman is kinda nuts. Like, really really strong. Hagatha’s value game is ridiculous (if swingy and random), Knife Juggler is just as good as in even Paladin, and Shaman just has a whole lot of really great cards on even slots. The elemental package is good too, and having Corpsetaker in a deck with Al-Akir, Flametongue Totem, and Elemental Might can lead to some very high-damage turns. Has anyone else been really disappointed with Saronite Chain-Gang lately? I feel like there’s just a whole lotta stuff in the meta that either is 3/3 (Blink Fox, Wolf Tokens, Glimmerroot, Corpsetaker, etc.) or does 3 damage (Duskbreaker, Flanking Strike, Hagatha, Flame Elemental), or is just pretty meh against Psychic Scream - and Saronite kinda sucks against all that. I’m honestly considering subbing it out for Sen’jin in most decks I’d run it in (3/5 stacks up just fine against Flanking Strike and Duskbreaker) - or Tol’vir Stoneshaper in even shaman, because who doesn’t love a 4-mana 3/5 annoy-o-tron? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Deser2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Deser2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deser2)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2552 "2018-05-30T18:07:24Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Does anyone have any recommendations as far as non-hearthstone CCGs go? I’m curious to try others but I don’t know which are worth a shot. > > Edit: Including how friendly it is to new players. From what I hear, just about every CCG is far more generous to f2p players than hearthstone. I’ve been playing Eternal on and off which is pretty good. Worth checking out I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2553 "2018-06-11T13:58:55Z")
New arena event, they added special arena only cards for the next 3 weeks. Also 40% off 10 packs of cards. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2554 "2018-06-12T00:08:53Z")
So far I’ve gotten Ice Block both times from the “add a random hall of fame card to your hand” guy. I’m sure the first time my opponent plays it, they’ll pull Rag. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2555 "2018-06-13T01:21:12Z")
So which of the new arena cards would be fun in standard or wild? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2556 "2018-07-02T01:25:42Z")
I think it’s the last night of the event, so finish up your quests and arena runs. ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2557 "2018-07-02T01:59:09Z")
I do believe you get one more night, and everything rolls over on “July 3”. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2558 "2018-07-04T19:08:19Z")
[Minion adjustments](https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/blog/21901630) ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2559 "2018-07-05T00:45:56Z")
Pretty irrelevant tribals except for elemental giants + Jaina, but it’s nice to see some consistency. I wonder if Brode leaving allowed the team to be a bit more “hands on” with the buffing and nerfing. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2560 "2018-07-05T14:40:10Z")
> [@Tabby\_Cat](#): > > Pretty irrelevant tribals except for elemental giants + Jaina, but it’s nice to see some consistency. > > I wonder if Brode leaving allowed the team to be a bit more “hands on” with the buffing and nerfing. Yeah, mountain giant in big spell mage with Jaina (and in elemental/arugal mage, which I realize is tier 5 or something, but which generally ran mountain giants anyway because it always has a full hand) is pretty tasty. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/2561 "2018-07-14T20:18:37Z")
Oh my lord. So I’m playing Hunter. Turn 1: whiff. Turn 2 Wandering Monster, my opponent swings into it. It’s a greedy sprite, giving me extra mana. Turn 3: coin out Emerald Spellstone Turn 4: Emerald Spellstone Turn 5: Tar Creeper, he concedes All of these cards were in my opening hand after mulligan. Oh, by the way - this way _arena_. I need to go take a shower now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172.md?page=127) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172.md?page=129)