# The Hearthstone Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 28, 2014, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172 "2014-04-28T07:42:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/101 "2014-06-27T03:49:59Z")
> [@CrimeThink](#): > > I’m going the no real money purchases route as well. That’s why I am enjoying arena a lot more than constructed, since it is equal except for luck. I play my one or two arena runs a day and start to build up the cards needed for constructed. I’m actually enjoying not having all the needed cards, as the slow progression is more satisfying to me than having everything I need immediately. … i just want to echo this, especially the graped part. opening packs are like opening presents since i still need most everything! everytime i get a new card, it is fun figuring out if i could use it in a deck. i have bought most of Blizzard’s stuff full price on release, but a free-to-play is an irresistible challenge on top of the game itself. i also play a priest. pricing on Naxx will be released in a few days. i hope gold can be used because i’ve saved up 2k for it. it isn’t much but i think you can buy parts of the expansion piecemeal. [http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/13271477080#13](http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/13271477080#13) ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/102 "2014-06-27T03:51:12Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Oh absolutely - you do need a deck that makes sense with synergy between the cards, you need to know what the hell you’re doing, and knowing what the hell the _other guy_ is doing is possibly even more important. > > But when you’ve got a working Deck Concept that can work with common card A, it’s almost a given that it will work even better with blue or purple card B that does the same thing only better in every way. E.g. you could put a TAZDINGO! in your deck for a decent 4 mana wall, or you could drop a Defender of Argus for two decent walls AND a creature on top of that. You could use the Goblin Rocketeer as your Rogue finisher (with Shadowstep goodness) for 10 points of cool surprise damage by turn 8. Or you could do it with Leeroy for 12 damage, as early as turn 6 (16 on turn 7 with the combo buff on top for maximum shenanigans). > > And so on. You know, I kinda beg to differ on this. Especially with Argus, if you’re running a tempo style deck (I run tempo Rogue), often there just aren’t enough targets on the board to make Argus cost efficient, whereas you can always Tazdingo (Shieldmasta’) and have it be good. I’ve been thinking about swapping out Argus for a while. Arcane Golem is almost as good as Leeroy (just 2 damage less, so with 2 shadowsteps that’s 6 less in total for a crapton cheaper in dust, and 1 mana cheaper per Arcane Golem). Still, rarely anything can replace Leeroy, Ragnaros, it’s true. So play decks that don’t rely on those guys, and you’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/103 "2014-06-27T04:40:34Z")
> [@Tabby\_Cat](#): > > I’ve only spent $15(?) for the 15 packs so far, and those only got me Thalnos and Gruul. Been doing arenas to fill out the rest of my collection, I only really play Rogue, and have everything I need for Miracle Rogue, but… I just don’t like playing Miracle. Every game is a pull at the slot machine, it seems. Mostly playing Tempo Rogue on ranked, up to Rank 11 this Season, but I’m not pushing for any higher - just happy to arena at this point. Maybe I’ll try for rank 5 next season. One of my two Rogue decks is Miracle-ish, but I don’t play it like Miracle Rogue. Instead of a Leeroy finisher, I start comboing him with Shadowstep and AoE early - I might turn 4 Leeroy-Shadowstep, turn 5 Leeroy-Wild Pyromancer-Shadowstep, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/104 "2014-06-27T05:53:02Z")
Leeroy - Pyro - SS sounds interesting! Do you draw Leeroy early enough to make it consistent, though? Does Pyro serve you well otherwise (should help against Zoo I assume)? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/105 "2014-06-27T12:38:03Z")
> [@shijinn](#): > > pricing on Naxx will be released in a few days. i hope gold can be used because i’ve saved up 2k for it. it isn’t much but i think you can buy parts of the expansion piecemeal. > > [http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/13271477080#13](http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/13271477080#13) They’ve definitely said that Naxx will be buyable with in-game currency. My guess is 2K should cover the whole thing (that’s how much I’ve saved up). They certainly want to make it reachable for people who haven’t spent a month saving up. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/106 "2014-06-27T17:17:38Z")
What is up with people suiciding in ranked play as soon as the game opens? What is the point of giving up before the first card is played? ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/107 "2014-06-27T17:57:47Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > What is up with people suiciding in ranked play as soon as the game opens? What is the point of giving up before the first card is played? They’re artificially keeping their rank low. You get the same amount of gold for 3 wins whether you’re in Legend or rank 20, so they suicide to keep themselves 20-18 and usually run some sort of all-in aggro deck because they know they can consistently pull off quick, no-effort wins and farm gold really quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/108 "2014-06-27T20:14:45Z")
Thanks. That makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/109 "2014-06-27T20:46:14Z")
Sometimes people just don’t want to play against an unfavourable matchup. For example, burn Mages just can’t beat control Warriors. That match still takes 20 minutes though, so people just give up immediately. So people who leave immediately aren’t necessarily doing something scummy like farming newbies. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/110 "2014-06-27T20:48:39Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > Sometimes people just don’t want to play against an unfavourable matchup. For example, burn Mages just can’t beat control Warriors. That match still takes 20 minutes though, so people just give up immediately. So people who leave immediately aren’t necessarily doing something scummy like farming newbies. True, there were a couple times in beta where I insta quit against priests. They were FOTM at the time and while I had a decent win rate against them, a lot of times I went “fuck it” against like the 15th priest in a row (not an exaggeration) just because 30 minute matches against “fuck you, I own all your cards” decks were obnoxious. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/111 "2014-06-27T22:10:39Z")
I’ve also heard of ‘win trading’. I don’t know what it is, but I presume its a bunch of people who keep losing against each other, so they farm gold like that. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/112 "2014-06-28T02:35:05Z")
Also to farm for golden portraits. Best to get out of rank 20 ASAP if you actually want to play. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/113 "2014-06-28T05:40:30Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > Sometimes people just don’t want to play against an unfavourable matchup. For example, burn Mages just can’t beat control Warriors. That match still takes 20 minutes though, so people just give up immediately. So people who leave immediately aren’t necessarily doing something scummy like farming newbies. This. I hate Zoo decks and everyone who plays them. After you’ve played three or four of the bastards in a row, you just get sick of it and want to find someone better to play against. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/114 "2014-06-28T10:40:42Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > They’ve definitely said that Naxx will be buyable with in-game currency. My guess is 2K should cover the whole thing (that’s how much I’ve saved up). They certainly want to make it reachable for people who haven’t spent a month saving up. i hear that you will be getting 30+ cards with the expansion. that is a very reasonable price if so. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/115 "2014-06-28T23:52:57Z")
[http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/13271477080?page=5#91](http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/13271477080?page=5#91) i’m used to them pushing back release dates for new games or patches or whatever but, pricing information? that’s odd. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/116 "2014-06-30T23:47:46Z")
Man, I feel kind of bad, I just beat up the same mage twice in a row getting to rank 20 before tomorrow. It wasn’t even fair. Like, I’m pretty sure he was using the nearly unplayable default deck unfair. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/117 "2014-07-01T01:05:48Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > Man, I feel kind of bad, I just beat up the same mage twice in a row getting to rank 20 before tomorrow. It wasn’t even fair. Like, I’m pretty sure he was using the nearly unplayable default deck unfair. If I’m playing a late game control deck(typically priest) and come up against one of those, I make it a point not to play the legendaries, since I’m usually pretty far ahead anyway. It feels wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/118 "2014-07-01T01:26:38Z")
So anyone going for ranked this season? I always think I want to rank up… and end up playing arena more than anything. ---
**Author:** ![CrimeThink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90db22/32.png) [@CrimeThink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrimeThink)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/119 "2014-07-01T02:30:28Z")
I might try now that I have two complete decks that I think are viable. I finished up at rank 5 pretty much only playing ranked in order to complete daily quests and to get a little more gold to play arenas. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/120 "2014-07-02T01:11:08Z")
> [@Tabby\_Cat](#): > > So anyone going for ranked this season? I always think I want to rank up… and end up playing arena more than anything. I’ve blown through our money for Arena and now have to grind for gold in the ranked once again. And while our cards and playing have gotten a ton better, I’m still incredibly frustrated by the massive amount of people with killer decks who are playing ranked games in the 19-17 range. I hate those guys. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172.md?page=7)