# The Hearthstone Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 28, 2014, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172 "2014-04-28T07:42:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![The\_Lurker\_Above](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Lurker\_Above](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Lurker_Above)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1441 "2016-02-12T00:42:49Z")
Astral Communion was also pretty sick for me. I managed to not only ramp up to 10 mana on turn 5, but I managed to discard 2 chickens as well. It’s pretty much impossible for a Rogue to deal with multiple Cenariuses (Cenarii?) that early in the game. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1442 "2016-02-12T00:51:18Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > The most broken card in the brawl is Questing Adventurer. Your deck always has a bunch of coins and 1-drops in it and you always have five cards in hand at the start of your turn, so it’s very easy to make a Questing Adventurer become a monster. That’s how I won my one brawl. On turn 2, coined out a questing and coined out a chicken. Opponent conceded. On a different note, does anyone know if Arena is going to be wild or standard going forward? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1443 "2016-02-12T00:58:49Z")
> [@The\_Lurker\_Above](#): > > Astral Communion was also pretty sick for me. I managed to not only ramp up to 10 mana on turn 5, but I managed to discard 2 chickens as well. It’s pretty much impossible for a Rogue to deal with multiple Cenariuses (Cenarii?) that early in the game. Ah, I Astral’d once and it did nothing since I didn’t pick up any high drops after that. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Lurker\_Above](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Lurker\_Above](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Lurker_Above)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1444 "2016-02-12T02:14:17Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Ah, I Astral’d once and it did nothing since I didn’t pick up any high drops after that. Oh, I already had the Cenarius from the turn before (the other options were worse and also high-cost). 5 mana turn and the opponent has a _very_ swipable board and I had no good minions in hand. I take the offered idol and pick ‘spell’ hoping for the swipe and got the astral communion instead. It worked out :P. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1445 "2016-02-12T02:23:26Z")
> [@bldysabba](#): > > On a different note, does anyone know if Arena is going to be wild or standard going forward? Current info says Arena will be wild. I haven’t played Arena in a year, probably, but I don’t think that’s a good idea - since when the card pool is diluted you won’t be able to rely on drafting synergies, arena is going to be even more minion stat stick bashing than it currently is already. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1446 "2016-02-13T16:55:19Z")
Hit rank 6 today. 😃 ShamWow is stupid, and I can’t shake the feeling it’s only due to get stupider after Standard hits and they phase out Sludge Belcher, Deathlord, and Healbot. Here’s hoping they don’t ruin Doomhammer. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1447 "2016-02-14T20:57:45Z")
RANK 5! 😃 …Imma push for Legend this round. I actually think I get this deck (and it’s super easy). Now to figure out how to deal with Tempo Mage… ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1448 "2016-02-14T22:50:11Z")
Woot! Are we friends yet? I wanna spectate some games! ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1449 "2016-02-15T06:05:56Z")
Turns out, Deathrattle Rogue is pretty shit. =D Riding Control Priest. Looks like I will never hit Legend on Rogue… ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1450 "2016-02-15T08:08:23Z")
> [@Tabby\_Cat](#): > > Woot! Are we friends yet? I wanna spectate some games! BPC#2373 is what my friends list sez. I play on the EU server though, not sure if that’s an issue. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1451 "2016-02-16T01:26:12Z")
> [@bldysabba](#): > > Another 250 gold reward for a 12 win arena. I’m almost certain now that Blizzard has nerfed gold rewards in arena. > > It was an unexpected run so I’m not too cut up. I was 2-2 on a Rogue deck and won 10 straight after that. > > This arena really demonstrated how much early game tempo matters. I had 4 one cost cards(2xBuccaneers, 1xAbusive, 1xPoison). Almost 20 two and three drops, 3 or 4 four drops, only 3 late game drops(Drakonid, War Golem, Molten Giant(which I only got to play once)). > > No board clears (except Deathwing, which I never got to play), no backstabs, no SIs, no card draw, one eviscerate. I really wasn’t expecting 12 wins, but I somehow always ended up getting tempo and managing lethal somewhere around turns 7 to 9. Most 12 wins these days are coming from Rogue, with Pally a close second. The early game board control Rogue has is fierce. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1452 "2016-02-16T01:45:34Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > The early game board control Rogue has is fierce. My last (constructed) game was Pirate Rogue versus Aggro Paladin. He played a Competitive Spirit on turn 1, and it never triggered. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1453 "2016-02-16T09:48:46Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Most 12 wins these days are coming from Rogue, with Pally a close second. > > The early game board control Rogue has is fierce. Seriously. Being able to do T1 Buccaneer and back it up with Backstab makes life hell for anyone who isn’t playing a ping class. I think it really is the best class for Arena, especially because the second-best class, Paladin, tends to have trouble against it. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1454 "2016-02-16T14:11:52Z")
One thing I’ve noticed about my play recently is that I’m not so invested in winning or losing, they both happen and neither elicits more than a shrug. But what infuriates me is getting unlucky. I don’t mind getting beat, but I absolutely hate it when I’m waiting to inflict fatal with Jaraxxus as my hero, the opponent plays Nefarian, and draws a sacrifical pact. I just conceded a game that I could have easily won when a Mind Control Tech stole a Dr. Boom from my board of 4 imps, 2 bombs, and Dr. Boom. That 14% chance coming in infuriates me more than losing and certainly elicits more emotion than winning does. ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1455 "2016-02-16T18:44:48Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > One thing I’ve noticed about my play recently is that I’m not so invested in winning or losing, they both happen and neither elicits more than a shrug. But what infuriates me is getting unlucky. I don’t mind getting beat, but I absolutely hate it when I’m waiting to inflict fatal with Jaraxxus as my hero, the opponent plays Nefarian, and draws a sacrifical pact. I just conceded a game that I could have easily won when a Mind Control Tech stole a Dr. Boom from my board of 4 imps, 2 bombs, and Dr. Boom. That 14% chance coming in infuriates me more than losing and certainly elicits more emotion than winning does. Having bad luck on one play doesn’t usually get to me, it’s when I have it on multiple plays. For example, I’ll play a summoning spell (imp-losion, muster for battle, hounds) while I have a Knife Juggler and opponent has a minion with 1 health…and all of the daggers hit face. On the following turn, his similar play wipes my board of all the recently summoned minions that I needed for board control. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1456 "2016-02-17T05:45:02Z")
This game is terribly addicting. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1457 "2016-02-17T11:03:49Z")
How to get value from Magma Rager: step 1: Play Magma Rager step 2: Play Shadowflame I’m glad I picked that card in Arena. Seriously, that board wipe saved my bacon quite often. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1458 "2016-02-18T02:21:32Z")
Today’s brawl was fun. I got my 5-win quest done with a hybrid windfury/overload shaman deck. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1459 "2016-02-18T02:43:00Z")
I was listening to the Angry Chicken Podcast today, and they had a well known tournament player, ThatsAdmirable, on. And he mentioned something that really struck a chord with me. He said that, in the context of discussing the new Standard and Wild modes, the decks these days are so refined that there’s barely any innovation, and that in the actual playing of the deck, so few mistakes are made that the edge a good player has over a lousy one is in the region of 1-5%. This basically boils down to Heathstone being a complicated way to flip a coin, more or less. Even on the ladder, the question is not “play better” because \>rank 5 most players play almost perfectly anyway, but “choose the right deck”. My DR Rogue was crappy and so I was stuck in rank 8-10, but once I changed to control priest I’ve rocketed to rank 4. I think I’m favored against all the popular decks, Druid, Hunter, Tempo Mage, Secret Pally, and at least even against control warrior and Zoo. Haven’t queued into Freeze Mage in quite a while. Street Fighter 5 released 2 days ago, and I played my first street fighter in 2 years. I have to say, it was really refreshing to lose, and think “yeah, I got outplayed, good game”. I never have to review a game in my mind and think “yeah, there was no way I could have won that game” - if I lost, it was because I was the worse player. There’s order of magnitudes more ways to actually outplay someone in a game, and that’s fantastic. Maybe when Standard hits, I’ll get the deckbuilding itch again, and maybe then the “real game” of building decks and refining them will grab me again. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hearthstone-thread/687172/1460 "2016-02-19T11:26:10Z")
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