# The Heathers remake looks horrible. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 20, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008 "2018-01-20T01:11:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/41 "2018-01-22T20:49:20Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > So one of the _Heathers_ remake writers [thinks that the Heathers were good role models](http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/18/heathers-remake-interview/): It’s the perfect interpretation for the trump era. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/42 "2018-02-28T15:54:03Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > It’s the perfect interpretation for the trump era. Since the first episode is out now, that seems to be the theme of the reviews… the show is a hit with the alt-right and seems to modeling high school as far-right imagines it instead of reality. Doesn’t look like something I’m going to spend much time on, but I probably will rewatch the original now. > **[The New ‘Heathers’ Is a Trumpian, LGBT-Bashing Nightmare](https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-new-heathers-is-a-trumpian-lgbt-bashing-nightmare)** > > Et tu, ‘Heathers’?! [http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2018/02/24/heathers-pilot-review-the-adults-arent-alright](http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2018/02/24/heathers-pilot-review-the-adults-arent-alright) ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/43 "2018-02-28T18:14:17Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Actually, the villains in _Heathers_ (and indeed, most ‘Eighties movies from John Hughes and Cameron Crowe, of which _Heathers_ is a satire) are the parents for being mostly absent from their childrens’ lives and generally a terrible example when they are present. It’s a major stretch to claim that characters that are never on screen are the villains of a movie. Heathers is a morality play, not a treatise on the root causes of the psychological issues of teenagers. The villains are the characters we see. > [@puddleglum](#): > > The Heathers were awful role models but JD is the villain in the movie. The Heathers were petty tyrants but JD was an evil psychopath. One of the great things about the movie is that it sets up the Heathers to be the villains and then introduces JD in such an appealing way that we can see why Veronica is so seduced and tempted by evil. The viewer is likewise seduced by JD and we root for him until it is too late and Veronica’s teenage angst BS has a body count. I would argue that both the Heathers _and JD_ are the villains. Veronica is initially seduced by the revenge fantasy, but ultimately realizes that the only way to win the game is to ignore what people think and focus on real friendship. Kudos to the remake I guess for being brave enough to make a fat girl and a gay guy the villains. We’ve come a long way (/sarcasm). ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/44 "2018-02-28T18:24:26Z")
> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#): > > It’s a major stretch to claim that characters that are never on screen are the villains of a movie. Heathers is a morality play, not a treatise on the root causes of the psychological issues of teenagers. The villains are the characters we see. If you mean the Heatherses parents you are right, but of course we do meet J.D.'s sociopath dad, and both of Veronica’s parents, the patronizers of bunny rabbits. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/45 "2018-02-28T19:12:33Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > If you mean the Heatherses parents you are right, but of course we do meet J.D.'s sociopath dad, and both of Veronica’s parents, the patronizers of bunny rabbits. Yeah, I mean the Heatherses parents. I think it’s still a stretch to call the other parents the villains, since they have little screen time and don’t directly commit any of the acts, but certainly they are not great parents. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/46 "2018-02-28T20:08:57Z")
> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#): > > Kudos to the remake I guess for being brave enough to make a fat girl and a gay guy the villains. We’ve come a long way (/sarcasm). This is because, according to the showrunner, you can’t be popular in high school today if you’re white or thin or straight. You have to be something, and the more somethings you are the higher in the hierarchy you are. And white straight people are just horribly bullied nowadays. So all the popular kids in schools today are gay and transgendered and nonwhite and disabled and homeless. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/47 "2018-03-01T10:06:25Z")
its in limbo now ,sounds like it might not even happen at all…[‘Heathers’ Reboot Delayed Following Parkland Shooting – The Hollywood Reporter](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/heathers-reboot-delayed-parkland-shooting-1089480) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/48 "2018-03-01T12:16:22Z")
Interesting–the first episode had actually been officially released on the web a few days ago. (I have it, but haven’t watched it.) Having seen the reviews, they may be coming up with an excuse to bury the thing and hope people forget it ever existed. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/49 "2018-03-01T21:46:07Z")
Story in Slate: > **[What Do Heathers Make of Heathers?](https://slate.com/culture/2018/03/heathers-schwedel-hogan-and-cocks-on-heathers-the-movie-and-the-tv-show.html)** > > There’s a new sheriff in town. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/50 "2018-03-02T03:10:42Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > _MallBrats_? Another callback, of course, since she was in _Mallrats_. Is it me, or are her eyes even more crooked than they were in the past? ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/51 "2018-03-02T22:05:13Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > This is because, according to the showrunner, you can’t be popular in high school today if you’re white or thin or straight. You have to be something, and the more somethings you are the higher in the hierarchy you are. And white straight people are just horribly bullied nowadays. > > So all the popular kids in schools today are gay and transgendered and nonwhite and disabled and homeless. Sounds like certain message boards. (not this one or any of the “related” spinoffs) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/52 "2018-07-26T23:13:23Z")
[An update](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/heathers-reboot-scrapped-at-paramount-network-sells-internationally-1127313). While nobody in the US is willing to air this so far, it is now being aired in several other countries. No news yet if this will be treated as a war crime. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/53 "2018-07-26T23:49:14Z")
I missed this thread the first time around and good heavens, the remake looks terrible. Just a note that the original Heathers is available for free on Pluto TV if you have a streaming device that supports their app. I know the Amazon devices do. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008/54 "2018-07-27T00:14:26Z")
There are also performances of \*Heathers: The Musical \*on YouTube. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-heathers-remake-looks-horrible/807008.md?page=2)