# The Hitler surname

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [September 5, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163 "2007-09-05T21:12:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kitemaker\_chuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a88e4f/32.png) [@kitemaker\_chuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitemaker_chuck)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/1 "2007-09-05T21:12:38Z")

</div>

Does anyone anywhere openly go by the surname of Hitler anymore?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/2 "2007-09-05T21:30:37Z")

</div>

[23 Hitlers in the phone book](http://www.411.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=&name=Hitler&street=&city_zip=&state_id=). That’s in the whole US, not including unlisted Hitlers.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/3 "2007-09-05T22:05:09Z")

</div>

I remember seeing a program on TV (I think it was a documentary) about a guy named Hilter (the L and T reversed) running for Parliament in England.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Horemheb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Horemheb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horemheb)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/4 "2007-09-05T22:06:13Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=friedo]  
[23 Hitlers in the phone book](http://www.411.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=&name=Hitler&street=&city_zip=&state_id=). That’s in the whole US, not including unlisted Hitlers.  
[/QUOTE]

Including Claydolf Hitler and the more oxymoronic Gandhi Hitler.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SailedTheOceanBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@SailedTheOceanBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SailedTheOceanBlue)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/5 "2007-09-05T22:09:32Z")

</div>

I know someone with the surname Hittler and doing a search a la **freido** there are 62 [others](http://www.411.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=&name=hittler&street=&city_zip=&state_id=) like her.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/6 "2007-09-05T23:02:39Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=friedo]  
unlisted Hitlers  
[/QUOTE]

Is it still okay to holler “BAND NAME!!”?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/7 "2007-09-06T00:12:52Z")

</div>

On a related issue, I just read this [article](http://living.scotsman.com/books.cfm?id=1271092007) about Katrin Himmler (grandniece of Heinrich Himmler). She said that she never had any problems with her family name because Himmler is a relatively common name in Germany.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/8 "2007-09-06T00:39:55Z")

</div>

[Adolf Lu Hitler Marak](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Lu_Hitler_Marak)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/9 "2007-09-06T15:34:43Z")

</div>

I had a new client bring in a cat named _Hitler_. I told them I’d rather not have them as clients, and they left without argument. The thing is the cat _did_ have a Hitleresque appearance; it had a lil black 'stache. But, the people looked more like white supremacists than just folks with a sense of humour.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/10 "2007-09-06T15:41:00Z")

</div>

[The Master sort of speaks](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/050211.html) on this subject, talking about direct relatives of Hitler living around the world. It’s not exactly what you asked, but I thought you’d find it interesting nonetheless.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/11 "2007-09-06T15:42:33Z")

</div>

Seriously? You declined to be their vet because they named their cat Hitler? And looked “something,” without their even saying anything yet?

Are you really serious? I can’t tell.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/12 "2007-09-06T15:55:53Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=missbunny]  
Seriously? You declined to be their vet because they named their cat Hitler? And looked “something,” without their even saying anything yet?

Are you really serious? I can’t tell.  
[/QUOTE]

Maybe if you saw them you would understand. I am a little picky on who I see, since it is often a relationship that lasts the lifetime of the pet. My staff was also uncomfortable with these people. So, yes, I told them I would not see them. Similarly, a few years back, I declined to see a black Labrador Retriever named _Nigger_.

Owning your own business is fraught with headaches. If I do not want to associate with certain individuals, dealing with that right up front is one positive aspect of business ownership.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/13 "2007-09-06T17:03:06Z")

</div>

This is reminding me of [this](http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigmiaow.pl) site. Was it a threadspotting?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/14 "2007-09-06T17:39:16Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=vetbridge]  
Maybe if you saw them you would understand. I am a little picky on who I see, since it is often a relationship that lasts the lifetime of the pet. My staff was also uncomfortable with these people. So, yes, I told them I would not see them. Similarly, a few years back, I declined to see a black Labrador Retriever named _Nigger_.

Owning your own business is fraught with headaches. If I do not want to associate with certain individuals, dealing with that right up front is one positive aspect of business ownership.  
[/QUOTE]

Are there any laws stating who private businesses can refuse to serve? Can you deny service based on sexual orientation/race/sex/sickness? How about people who don’t dress well? Or own a Dodge Caravan?

I’m truly curious.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/15 "2007-09-06T17:41:45Z")

</div>

There was Vic Hitler- Narcoleptic Comic.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harriet_the_Spry)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/16 "2007-09-06T17:46:06Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=Windwalker]  
Can you deny service based on sexual orientation/race/sex/sickness? How about people who don’t dress well? Or own a Dodge Caravan?

I’m truly curious.  
[/QUOTE]

sexual orientation - depends on state/city law  
race - no, federal law  
sex - no, federal law, possibly some exceptions for explicitly male/female services (e.g. maybe an OB/gyn could refuse to be primary care doctor for a male)  
sickness - yes (but disability, NO!)  
dressing well - yes (unless it is a proxy for race)  
Dodge Caravan - yes

The business owner has the right unless the government takes it away.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/17 "2007-09-06T17:57:18Z")

</div>

“Hi, I’m Mike Hitler. Welcome to the neighborhood.”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/18 "2007-09-06T18:09:14Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=SaintCad]  
I remember seeing a program on TV (I think it was a documentary) about a guy named Hilter (the L and T reversed) running for Parliament in England.  
[/QUOTE]  
I think you’ll find that was a sketch on _Monty Python’s Flying Circus_. (Not a documentary. At least, I hope not.)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/19 "2007-09-06T18:18:27Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=friedo]  
[23 Hitlers in the phone book](http://www.411.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=&name=Hitler&street=&city_zip=&state_id=). That’s in the whole US, not including unlisted Hitlers.  
[/QUOTE]  
Is that singing Hitlers or dancing Hitlers?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163/20 "2007-09-06T18:20:39Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=Windwalker]  
Are there any laws stating who private businesses can refuse to serve? Can you deny service based on sexual orientation/race/sex/sickness? How about people who don’t dress well? Or own a Dodge Caravan?

I’m truly curious.  
[/QUOTE]

Someone else gave some examples of who you can and cannot decline service to. I just wanted to add, that you CAN decline service to someone based on the name of their pet.

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hitler-surname/418163.md?page=2)
