# The Hobbit: Battle of the Five Armies - seen it thread (open spoilers)

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**Created:** [December 16, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-battle-of-the-five-armies-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/707425 "2014-12-16T19:05:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-battle-of-the-five-armies-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/707425/101 "2015-03-05T22:07:26Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> . . . What would have happened to Thorin if the dwarf army had arrived the day after the elf army did? . . .

In the book, the Dwarvish army arrived several days after the Elfish (Elven?) army did. Thorin and Company had fortified the front gate sufficiently strongly to deter a frontal assault, so everyone was dithering. The Men and Elves had declared Erebor under siege. They apparently never gave any thought at all to Dwarvish reinforcements.

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-battle-of-the-five-armies-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/707425/102 "2015-03-05T23:28:24Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> They apparently never gave any thought at all to Dwarvish reinforcements.

IIRC they didn’t realize that the dwarves could communicate via ravens. They thought they had Thorin bottled-up.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-battle-of-the-five-armies-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/707425/103 "2015-03-06T02:07:16Z")

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> [@Deeg](#):
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> IIRC they didn’t realize that the dwarves could communicate via ravens. They thought they had Thorin bottled-up.

Bard, at least, might have known better, having gotten his own vital news from a thrush.

(When I was very young, I was confused, thinking that THRUSH meant “bad guys” because of the Man From U.N.C.L.E. So what did that make Bard’s thrush?)

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-battle-of-the-five-armies-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/707425/104 "2015-03-14T23:38:44Z")

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Just saw this steaming pile of tripe, for free, thankfully. What an overwrought, cliche-filled soap opera. Jackson should be ashamed of this entire effort.

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**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-battle-of-the-five-armies-seen-it-thread-open-spoilers/707425/105 "2015-03-15T07:56:53Z")

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