# The Hobbit movie(s) anticipation thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 22, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969 "2010-10-22T02:44:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/201 "2011-12-21T22:03:43Z")
I’m super pumped for this movie. I have been for awhile, but in October I was in New Zealand and managed to be on the Hobbiton set the day after filming completed. 🙂 It really changed the look of the trailers for me to have sudden jolts of “Hey, I was standing right there!” \ I loved the song and the hint of the trolls that we got. I do think Thorin looks a bit weird – awfully young and not all that dwarvenly – but I’ll give the actor a chance. No looks at Smaug but that’s not surprising, they wanted to tease with Gollum who more people are familiar with. I also think it’s awesome that Stephen Fry is in it. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/202 "2011-12-21T22:09:36Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > As we hadn’t seen too many Tolkien dwarfs in LOTR, we have very little to compare. > > By the way, is it _dwarfs_ or _dwarves_ in Tolkien’s writing? _dwarves_ Thorin Oakenshield is almost handsome - not something I’d expect in a Tolkien dwarf. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/203 "2011-12-21T23:11:15Z")
I’m jealous that my friend **Icewolf** lives in such a beautiful country and gets to see all that wonderful scenery! Hey, sweetie! 🙂 Q ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/204 "2011-12-21T23:40:02Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > There is definitely a glimpse of troll feet / shins. > > TORN’s frame by frame analysis: > [http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150447765494821.372336.6425769820&type=3](http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150447765494821.372336.6425769820&type=3) > > Brian Some dedicated fan actually managed to capture a full image of one: [Stone troll](http://i.imgur.com/bgHCW.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/205 "2011-12-21T23:55:38Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > As we hadn’t seen too many Tolkien dwarfs in LOTR, we have very little to compare. > > By the way, is it _dwarfs_ or _dwarves_ in Tolkien’s writing? [QUOTE=JRRT] It may be observed that in this book as in The Hobbit the form dwarves is used, although the dictionaries tell us that the plural of dwarf is dwarfs. It should be dwarrows (or dwerrows), if singular and plural had each gone its own way down the years, as have man and men, or goose and geese. But we no longer speak of a dwarf as often as we do of a man, or even of a goose [/QUOTE] Brian ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/206 "2011-12-22T00:01:45Z")
I miss Tom Bombadil and Goldberry! Q ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/207 "2011-12-22T00:07:48Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > I miss Tom Bombadil and Goldberry! > > Q Tim Benzedrine and Hashberry. 🙂 oh god oh god the rush ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/208 "2011-12-22T00:28:05Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Tim Benzedrine and Hashberry. 🙂 > oh god oh god the rush “Give me Librium or give me Meth!” ------ unknown, the 60’s. 🙂 Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Untoward\_Parable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Untoward\_Parable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Untoward_Parable)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/209 "2011-12-22T00:51:05Z")
Has someone linked the trailer here yet? [The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - Official Trailer [1080p] 12/20/2011 - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BDUhRWwta7E) Looks sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/210 "2011-12-22T01:53:13Z")
> [@Untoward\_Parable](#): > > Has someone linked the trailer here yet? [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player\_embedded&v=BDUhRWwta7E](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BDUhRWwta7E) Looks sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Uh, yes. A few times. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Silophant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Silophant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silophant)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/211 "2011-12-22T02:01:16Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > That’s my current understanding, as well. That would explain certain scenes in the trailer (I suppose I should spoiler them)… > > Gandalf walking around in ruins by himself, staff in one hand, and the sword Glamdring in the other. Also, the presence of Galadriel in the trailer…she doesn’t appear in the book at all, but other canon established that she was in the White Council. Along the same lines, Christopher Lee’s been confirmed as Saruman, and he’s also in the White Council, but not The Hobbit. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/212 "2011-12-22T02:16:27Z")
> [@fluiddruid](#): > > I’m super pumped for this movie. I have been for awhile, but in October I was in New Zealand and managed to be on the Hobbiton set the day after filming completed. 🙂 It really changed the look of the trailers for me to have sudden jolts of “Hey, I was standing right there!” \ > > I loved the song and the hint of the trolls that we got. I do think Thorin looks a bit weird – awfully young and not all that dwarvenly – but I’ll give the actor a chance. No looks at Smaug but that’s not surprising, they wanted to tease with Gollum who more people are familiar with. I also think it’s awesome that Stephen Fry is in it. Benedict Cumberbatch is “playing” Smaug. Not just supplying the voice, but also doing motion-capture. Just as Andy Serkis “played” Gollum. He’s been busy with other projects & will apparently head to New Zealand just after new year’s day. So Smaug doesn’t really exist, yet… ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/213 "2011-12-22T02:21:04Z")
**Andy Serkis** has certainly carved out his own place in cinematic history, and it couldn’t have happened to a nicer or talented man! I hope no one “pigeon-holes” this talented young performer, because, in my opinion, he has owned every character he has ever portrayed. Thanks Quasi ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/214 "2011-12-22T06:12:18Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > I hope no one “pigeon-holes” this talented young performer He’s 47. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/215 "2011-12-22T06:35:47Z")
I’m 61, and I have never known anyone who fought for the part of Gollum as Andy did. If not young, then certainly unique and very special. I concede Andy is middle-aged, and I believe I let my respect for his talent influence my opinion. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/216 "2011-12-22T09:04:26Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > If not young, then certainly unique and very special. I suppose I should be fair; he was 35 when he was offered the part back in 1999. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/217 "2011-12-22T11:29:18Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Tim Benzedrine and Hashberry. 🙂 > [/SIZE] Ah, poor Frito. Thanks to Tim, plantus interruptus… ---
**Author:** ![Ratcatcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bcef8e/32.png) [@Ratcatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ratcatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/218 "2011-12-22T16:14:52Z")
Can’t wait. Genre fantasy movies are so rare, that I’ll likely be impressed if it’s even 1/4th as good as the LOTR trilogy. Hope the score will be as good. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/219 "2011-12-22T18:28:21Z")
> [@Silophant](#): > > Along the same lines, > > Christopher Lee’s been confirmed as Saruman, and he’s also in the White Council, but not The Hobbit. I have a feeling that a lot of the events alluded to in LoTR dealing with “The Necromancer” in Mirkwood and all that will be either flashbacked or dealt with directly as a cut-away in the Hobbit. Sort of a counter-narrative of what the Big People are dealing with while the Little People are sorting out their own problems. That explains much of the casting, and also helps to make the primary quest narrative spread more evenly throughout two films. I may be dead wrong about this, but hoping so - it’s my preferred construction possibility. I am very much looking forward to seeing certain people try to pretend to be good, honest, upstanding wizards during the Council meeting(s). ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/220 "2011-12-22T18:54:27Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > I have a feeling that a lot of the events alluded to in LoTR dealing with “The Necromancer” in Mirkwood and all that will be either flashbacked or dealt with directly as a cut-away in the Hobbit. In the linked trailer a few posts above, at about the 1:17 to 1:20 mark, I think you see Gandalf checking out some ruins, which I would like to speculate is/are Dol Guldur. Edit: [lotr.wikia.com](http://lotr.wikia.com) has that screenshot, and labels it as Gandalf at Dol Guldur. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969.md?page=12)