# The Hobbit movie(s) anticipation thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 22, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969 "2010-10-22T02:44:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/261 "2011-12-23T19:28:23Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Cite? Everything I’ve read indicates he was a Sindarin, possibly a kinsman of Thingol, who resided in Doriath and never went to Valinor with Olwë. :smack: You’re correct. I misread the wiki. > **[Oropher](https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Oropher)** > > Oropher was the Sindar King of the Silvan Elves of Greenwood the Great during the Second Age.\[1\] He was the father of Thranduil, who would succeed him, and grandfather of Legolas. Oropher was one of the Sindar of Doriath. After the War of Wrath, he... > [@wikia](#): > > Oropher was one of the Sindar of Doriath, but after the War of Wrath he declined to depart Middle-earth as many others did, and instead went over the Blue Mountains (Ered Luin) with his household. He eventually ended up in Greenwood the Great, where Silvan Elves of Nandorin descent lived, and he was taken by them as lord. His capital was at Amon Lanc. I mis-interpreted the first paragraph as saying he came over with the Noldor at the start of the War of the Wrath. I did not realise that many non-Valinor elves also fought against Melkor in the First Age. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/262 "2011-12-23T19:36:14Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I mis-interpreted the first paragraph as saying he came over with the Noldor at the start of the War of the Wrath. I did not realise that many non-Valinor elves also fought against Melkor in the First Age. Melian’s Girdle only protected Doriath itself. The rest of Beleriand was open to Morgoth’s pillaging wherever the orcs could get around defenders, even to the south of Doriath…the Falas fell to Morgoth sometime between Nirnaeth Arneodiad and the War of Wrath. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/263 "2011-12-23T20:05:55Z")
The largest kingdom at the time of the 1st Age was Thingol’s. It was filled with Teleri that never crossed and Nandor elves that entered into Belerian prior to the return of Morgoth. While protected by the Girdle of Melian they mainly lived under the stars. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/264 "2011-12-23T22:10:19Z")
What the…? Now you’re at risk of turning into self parody. ---
**Author:** ![Apollo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@Apollo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/265 "2011-12-24T08:11:35Z")
_Far over the misty mountains cold to dungeons deep and caverns old we must away ere break of day to seek the pale enchanted gold the dwarves of yore made mighty spells, while hammers fell like ringing bells in places deep, where dark things sleep, in hollow halls beneath the fells. for ancient king and elvish lord there many a gleaming golden hoard they shaped and wrought, and light they caught to hide in gems on hilt of sword far over the misty mountains cold to dungeons deep and caverns old._ [Misty Mountains](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4xG1h3LC5g) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/266 "2011-12-24T17:42:25Z")
[Hobbit Production Video #5](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pFUh_k2ipqo) Cool that the new Hobbiton sets will remain afterwards. So, Elijah Wood looks the same at 19 as he does 30. He never ages. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/267 "2011-12-24T20:51:05Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > [Hobbit Production Video #5](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pFUh_k2ipqo) > > Cool that the new Hobbiton sets will remain afterwards. So, Elijah Wood looks the same at 19 as he does 30. He never ages. He’s also in hi-def film quality makeup to make him match his appearance from the very beginning of LOTR. That stuff covers a multitude of sins and years alike. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/268 "2012-02-09T18:17:58Z")
Billy Connoly cast as Dain II Ironfoot > **[Billy Connolly Joins The Hobbit Cast! Official Release](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/02/08/53459-billy-connolly-joins-the-hobbit-cast-official-release/)** > > Los Angeles, CA—February 8, 2012—Billy Connolly is joining the cast of Peter Jackson’s highly anticipated film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien’s epic “The Hobbit.” The announcement was made today by Jackson, who directed all three “The Lord of the... Decent casting IMHO Brian ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/269 "2012-02-09T18:29:55Z")
was looking at another board & someone posted something so funny - they had read about a rumor that Nicholas Cage was offered the role of Aragorn in LOTR & turned it down. The image of Cage as Aragorn - so funny yet so sickening and appalling… ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/270 "2012-02-09T18:35:37Z")
Imrahil, Prince of Dol Amroth, was left out of _Return of the King_. Budget, plot, the movie was already too long, why introduce an important character so late–I’m sure there were good reasons. I don’t really mind. In one of the commentaries, Peter Jackson said that, before they decided to do without the Prince, they’d considered Arnold Schwarzenegger for the role. I’m pretty sure he was joking… ---
**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/271 "2012-02-09T18:42:06Z")
I don’t know - he originally cast Stuart Townsend as Aragorn - what a genius move that was. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/272 "2012-02-09T20:53:14Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Billy Connoly cast as Dain II Ironfoot > [Billy Connolly Joins The Hobbit Cast! Official Release](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/02/08/53459-billy-connolly-joins-the-hobbit-cast-official-release/) > > Decent casting IMHO > > Brian Oh yeah, Connolly is a decent actor, and the production will save a bit of money on make-up, so win-win. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/273 "2012-02-09T21:18:59Z")
> [@Mrs.Cake](#): > > I don’t know - he originally cast Stuart Townsend as Aragorn - what a genius move that was. Yeah, but he dumped him early on & hired Viggo Mortensen! ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/274 "2012-02-09T23:29:56Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Yeah, but he dumped him early on & hired Viggo Mortensen! After filming began even, right? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/275 "2012-02-09T23:38:10Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > After filming began even, right? Yes… ---
**Author:** ![williambaskerville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f14d63/32.png) [@williambaskerville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/williambaskerville)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/276 "2012-02-10T14:45:23Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Yes… Earlier thread on the Townsend casting :- [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=147101&highlight=townsend](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=147101&highlight=townsend) Bonus data point about the coolness of Viggo Mortensen :- Bob Anderson, [Bob Anderson (fencer) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Anderson_%28fencer%29), died in January this year. Bob Anderson was a fencing champing and trainer, fight choreographer and sword master, and pretty legendary in film circles :- his list of credits includes The Princess Bride, Star Wars (he was Darth Vader’s light sabre duel double), and the LOTR trilogy. (He was also involved in the Hobbit movies :- I won’t be surprised if one of them is dedicated to him). I read in an obituary of him that he maintained that the most talented swordsman he ever trained, (and he trained real life Olympic fencing champions), was … Viggo Mortensen. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/277 "2012-02-12T23:08:30Z")
Saw the trailer on the big screen when we went to the movies… It looks even better than I anticipated. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/278 "2012-02-14T02:13:56Z")
Re: Bob Anderson. I have the dvd “Reclaiming The Blade” (did some collegiate fencing - mostly Epee’). I’m not surprised he said that about Viggo. That was some strong work he did in LOTR. Rest in peace, **Maitre d’Armes**! Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/279 "2012-02-14T02:22:46Z")
Corey Olsen, aka “The Tolkien Professor” is releasing via his website and at iTunes a series of podcasts focusing on the material JRRT wrote relating to “The Hobbit”. It’s entitled “Riddles in the Dark” and you can find it [here](http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/the-tolkien-professor/id320513707). (Along with all his other JRRT lectures, which I have found fascinating.) He’s only got two episodes out so far, but I am finding it fascinating, as he’s pulling info from TH, “History of The Hobbit”, LOTR appendices as they relate to TH, Unfinished Tales, and odds and ends gleaned from SIL and HOMES. So far it’s been an accurate recapitulation of what’s known of the history Thrain I, first king under the mountain, and lots of other geeky bits. He plans an entire podcast (generally about an hour) just on the Battle of Azanulbizar! He’s also relating what’s seen in The Hobbit trailer to just what it might represent in JRRT’s writing. He acknowledges that PJ may just be ‘winging it’, though. The guy knows his stuff, though I’ve quibbled with a few of his interpretations before, and suspect he really doesn’t have all the HOMES material down cold yet. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/280 "2012-02-14T02:52:32Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Re: Bob Anderson. > > I have the dvd “Reclaiming The Blade” (did some collegiate fencing - mostly Epee’). I’m not surprised he said that about Viggo. That was some strong work he did in LOTR. > > Rest in peace, **Maitre d’Armes**! > > Quasi I saw the documentary just a bit before he died. He was a great guy and that documentary belongs on the Lord of the Rings DVD. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969.md?page=15)