# The Hobbit movie(s) anticipation thread

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 22, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969 "2010-10-22T02:44:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/321 "2012-04-27T17:29:39Z")

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More on the footage shown (spoilers)

> **[Hobbit Footage Review & MASSIVE SPOILERS: Full Coverage & Analysis!](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/04/27/55378-hobbit-footage-review-massive-spoilers-full-coverage-analysis/)**
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> DID WE SAY MASSIVE SPOILERS?! Yes, we did, so before reading further know that everything revealed to me will be revealed to you! Tuesday's unspooling of 10 minutes of THE HOBBIT at CinemaCon took the place quite by surprise and should be considered...

Brian

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/322 "2012-04-27T19:28:31Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> The quote I was going by was this, in Wikipedia:  
> “in Valinor he had dwelt among the people of the gods, but there Morgoth had drawn him to evil and to his service” which comes from “The War of the Jewels”, one of the Christopher Tolkien pasteups I don’t own.

Yeah, from WOTJ:

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> ‘Sauron was the chief servant of the evil Vala, whom he had suborned to his service in Valinor from among the people of the gods. He was become a wizard of dreadful power, master of necromancy, foul in wisdom’ \> ‘Now Sauron, whom the Noldor call Gorthu, was the chief servant of Morgoth. In Valinor he had dwelt among the people of the gods, but there Morgoth had drawn him to evil and to his service. He was become now a sorcerer of dreadful power, master of shadows and of ghosts, foul in wisdom’.

Looks like JRRT did indeed place Sauron in Valinor in more than one draft, plus a letter. As noted in my previous post in this thread, I suspect Sauron probably even had a role in building Valinor.

That’s the headache of dealing with lack of a final Canon. Lots of loose ends were left out there. Early drafts have Sauron being Morgoth’s secret spy in Almaren ages before Valinor was built, later writings say he was suborned to Morgoth’s service in Valinor. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/323 "2012-04-28T18:19:15Z")

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[Here is Peter Jackson on the “controversy” of the 48 FPS.](http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/04/27/peter-jackson-responds-hobbit/)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/324 "2012-05-09T00:58:34Z")

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Here is the Hobbiton set before the renovations restored it to its Lord of the Rings quality again.

[It will be a permanent exhibit this time.](http://www.amusingplanet.com/2012/05/lord-of-rings-movie-set-now-houses.html)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/325 "2012-05-09T01:11:03Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Here is the Hobbiton set before the renovations restored it to its Lord of the Rings quality again.
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> [It will be a permanent exhibit this time.](http://www.amusingplanet.com/2012/05/lord-of-rings-movie-set-now-houses.html)

I’ll bet it took a bit of work to make the insides of those hobbit-holes habitable again after being a sheepfold for almost a decade.

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**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/326 "2012-05-09T14:59:19Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I’ll bet it took a bit of work to make the insides of those hobbit-holes habitable again after being a sheepfold for almost a decade.

They were never habitable to begin with - they were just very nice ‘insets’ into the hillside to make it look like there was a Hobbit Hole there. There wasn’t really anything behind them to speak of in most cases.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/327 "2012-06-06T10:51:56Z")

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New production diary

> **[‘The Hobbit’ Production Vlog #7 Is Out](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/06/06/56702-the-hobbit-production-vlog-7-is-out/)**
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> "Sorry to be out of touch these past few weeks. It's been very busy here on the set… What would you say to a little studio tour?" That's what Peter Jackson had to say on his Facebook page not but a few hours ago. And now, as if to coincide with the...

Brian

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**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/328 "2012-06-06T11:34:42Z")

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> [@Airk](#):
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> They were never habitable to begin with - they were just very nice ‘insets’ into the hillside to make it look like there was a Hobbit Hole there. There wasn’t really anything behind them to speak of in most cases.

We visited there in about 2007. Most of them were doors that didn’t even open. Bag End, the door did open and there was a tiny room that it was possible to stand in, but it certainly didn’t look like anything – just a large crate, sort of.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/329 "2012-06-06T14:30:08Z")

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Thanks for the link to the new production video. I haven’t seen it, but I bet they are bustling like crazy to get this movie finished for December.

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**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/330 "2012-06-06T19:10:10Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> New production diary  
> [‘The Hobbit’ Production Vlog #7 Is Out](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/06/06/56702-the-hobbit-production-vlog-7-is-out/)

Ha! Love the ending!

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/331 "2012-06-06T19:40:32Z")

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Vastly enjoying the over-cautious blurring of EVERYTHING in the backgrounds of the various production areas.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/332 "2012-06-07T00:44:06Z")

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> [@Lasciel](#):
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> Vastly enjoying the over-cautious blurring of EVERYTHING in the backgrounds of the various production areas.

I like the big “no” symbol over anything for “Film 2”.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/333 "2012-06-07T01:05:16Z")

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Goodness, they certainly have a lot of “ten sheeds” at that studio…

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/334 "2012-06-07T14:37:30Z")

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Also, I see that just like Lord of the Rings, Hobbit has caused Peter Jackson to gain weight. He looks about the same as he did while filming LOTR 11 years ago.

I hope he loses weight again after this gigantic project is finished.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/335 "2012-06-07T14:42:58Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Also, I see that just like Lord of the Rings, Hobbit has caused Peter Jackson to gain weight. He looks about the same as he did while filming LOTR 11 years ago.
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> I hope he loses weight again after this gigantic project is finished.

He’s commented on this before - he gets stressed during projects and his personal health goes a little bit pearshaped. He actually ended up in the hospital at some point in the past due to ulcers.

While he’s nearly as HEAVY as he was during LoTR, I will say that he looks HEALTHIER this time around - he’s not nearly so pale and haggard looking, and he still has that spring in his step and his expressions are all sparkly still. I thought he looked like a zombie at the end of LoTR - I was really truly worried about him.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/336 "2012-06-07T14:43:06Z")

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Does anyone know what happened to Jamie Selkirk? He was Peter Jackson’s editor on every movie he had made up to Lovely Bones, which he did not do.

Now, he edited only Return of the King because a different person was in charge of each of those films, but he was given Return of the King because of its importance.

Now, I see has is not editing either section of The Hobbit as well, nor is he a producer. Did the two have a falling out or did he just retire? He did win the Academy Award for editing Return of the King, so perhaps he just decided to go out after finishing that and King Kong.

Anyone know the story?

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/337 "2012-07-06T11:09:01Z")

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Principle photography is done (shoot day 266)

> **[Per PJ: It’s a wrap!](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/07/05/58268-per-pj-its-a-wrap/)**
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> Peter Jackson posted the following message on his facebook page a little while ago: "We made it! Shoot day 266 and the end of principal photography on The Hobbit. Thanks to our fantastic cast and crew for getting us this far, and to all of you for...

Brian

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/338 "2012-07-07T04:27:47Z")

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I see photos on the Facebook page, but no video.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/339 "2012-07-07T11:32:24Z")

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Because there isn’t one, though the hope/expectation that there will be one. In his last video he did mention that there would be a video “when we wrap or shortly after we wrap”

Brian

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/340 "2012-07-10T10:52:42Z")

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Cool Hobbit “scroll”  
[http://www.ew.com/ew/special/0,,20399642\_20610399,00.html](http://www.ew.com/ew/special/0,,20399642_20610399,00.html)  
Brian

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