# The Hobbit movie(s) anticipation thread

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 22, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969 "2010-10-22T02:44:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/341 "2012-07-10T15:50:47Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Here is the Hobbiton set before the renovations restored it to its Lord of the Rings quality again.
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> [It will be a permanent exhibit this time.](http://www.amusingplanet.com/2012/05/lord-of-rings-movie-set-now-houses.html)

FWIW I was lucky enough to be in Matamata the day after shooting was done on the set and took the tour. I can’t release my pictures until the films are released but suffice it to say, it looked amazing and exactly as it was in the original films (though we were told it had been slightly expanded to have more hobbit holes).

They were still in the process of removing props – there were still a ton laying about, we even found mail in Bag End’s mailbox! – so I don’t know exactly how it will look for future tours, but it definitely looks to be amazing compared to the old look. They rebuilt it this time to last safely as a part of the deal to reuse the site, I understand. NZ was an amazing place to vacation and it’s beautiful country in Matamata, so if anyone has the chance to go, I’d recommend it. Eat first though, the lines at The Shire’s Rest were long and the selection small.

We stayed at a B&B used by the cast. They gave us one of Martin Freeman’s leftover beers.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/342 "2012-07-10T16:15:59Z")

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> [@fluiddruid](#):
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> Eat first though, the lines at The Shire’s Rest were long and the selection small.

Sounds like the Shire’s Rest is for the tourists…the hobbit locals wouldn’t stand for that kind of thing…

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/343 "2012-07-10T17:27:37Z")

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> [@fluiddruid](#):
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> . . . They gave us one of Martin Freeman’s leftover beers.

[fangirl]What brand of beer does Martin Freeman drink?[/fangirl]

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/344 "2012-07-11T00:40:23Z")

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> [@teela\_brown](#):
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> [fangirl]What brand of beer does Martin Freeman drink?[/fangirl]

I second the quesiton.

Also, how did you get this opportunity? What a cool thing.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/345 "2012-07-11T04:38:11Z")

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Anybody have any recommendations for more of Martin Freeman’s work? I’ve seen _The Office_, _Love Actually_, and _Sherlock_, and I think he’s brilliant–especially in the latter. I see several films and a few other television series on his IMDB page. Which ones are worthwhile?

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/346 "2012-07-11T05:06:29Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Anybody have any recommendations for more of Martin Freeman’s work? I’ve seen _The Office_, _Love Actually_, and _Sherlock_, and I think he’s brilliant–especially in the latter. I see several films and a few other television series on his IMDB page. Which ones are worthwhile?

I’m assuming you’ve already seen The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/347 "2012-07-11T15:51:44Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Anybody have any recommendations for more of Martin Freeman’s work? I’ve seen _The Office_, _Love Actually_, and _Sherlock_, and I think he’s brilliant–especially in the latter. I see several films and a few other television series on his IMDB page. Which ones are worthwhile?

To me, those are the core things he is famous for, but I’ll second the mention that he is in Hitchhiker’s Guide.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/348 "2012-07-11T19:42:23Z")

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I forgot to list it, but I have seen Hitchhiker’s Guide.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/349 "2012-07-12T14:52:29Z")

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> [@teela\_brown](#):
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> [fangirl]What brand of beer does Martin Freeman drink?[/fangirl]

I’d have to go through the pictures to know the exact brand, but it was a local NZ microbrew.

> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Also, how did you get this opportunity? What a cool thing.

Totally serendipitously. Awhile back I had been making some noise about a trip to Morocco (with a group tour) and my sister got worried that this was too dangerous, and long story short we agreed on a vacation with her and her husband and I to save money. We planned for Australia, but as it turns out the airfare was the same to add a leg to Auckland. Being the nerd that I am, I asked that we go to at least one LOTR filming location, and Hobbiton was the closest notable one to Auckland (a lot of the filming locations were on the south island). However, filming was happening around that time so we weren’t sure it would happen, but we wanted to go driving in the country anyway so we just booked it and hoped for the best.

Throughout the trip (we did Australia first) the place was closed so I was pretty nervous, and the closure got extended slightly. It wasn’t until very shortly before that we heard that they would be open the exact day we’d booked. Filming had completed just the day before but they were letting people in while people from the production were still on site finishing up. On the bus from Shire’s Rest to the location, we passed a couple of guys with a huge pile of wooden furniture and other big props, as well as the people taking down the catering tent. However, tons of small props were left so it all looked pretty much exactly as the films, and with all kinds of little details. Things like little personal belongings left on windowsills, laundry hanging out to dry, that sort of thing. Also, impressively, there were tons of obviously fresh flowering plants (mostly in carefully hidden pots) so it all looked absolutely bursting with life and energy. It just looked like all the hobbits had gone down to the Green Dragon for an ale. 🙂 Which is there too, though we only saw it from across the water, I always assumed they had just added it with CGI.

It was really cool. Just very fortunate timing all in all.

As for staying where we did, just lucky – NZ prices in the country are pretty low (compared to Aus especially) so when we were looking at Matamata locations to stay, which there aren’t too many, we picked what seemed to be the best B&B in town and apparently they were used a lot during filming. It ended up being maybe $10 or $15 more per person to stay there vs the cheapest place so it seemed like a good idea, and the pictures on the website were impressive. They were actually right on the edge of town with terrific scenery, even more than I expected from the pics. Had a great time! We also did some hiking near “Mt. Doom” (Mount Ngauruhoe) while in the Lake Taupo area.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/350 "2012-07-12T20:03:38Z")

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This might be of interest to regulars in this thread: Christopher Tolkien has given a very rare interview to Le Monde. He talks about the movies, and his father’s legacy.

[Le Monde](http://www.lemonde.fr/culture/article/2012/07/05/tolkien-l-anneau-de-la-discorde_1729858_3246.html)

[English Translation](http://sedulia.blogs.com/sedulias_translations/2012/07/was-first-felt.html)

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/351 "2012-07-24T07:50:03Z")

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[New Video Blog](http://www.thehobbitblog.com/?p=7753).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/352 "2012-07-25T02:44:44Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> [New Video Blog](http://www.thehobbitblog.com/?p=7753).

Good stuff - thanks! Surprised they showed so much of Legolas.

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/353 "2012-07-25T04:41:30Z")

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I love how the actors stare at the trailer at the con with the same slack-jawed delight as any geek fan.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/354 "2012-07-25T15:39:36Z")

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Brace yourself - it might become a trilogy: [‘The Hobbit’ Filmmakers in Deep Talks With Warner Bros. to Make Third Movie – The Hollywood Reporter](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/hobbit-third-movie-warner-bros-353719)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/355 "2012-07-25T15:48:15Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Brace yourself - it might become a trilogy: [‘The Hobbit’ Filmmakers in Deep Talks With Warner Bros. to Make Third Movie](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/hobbit-third-movie-warner-bros-353719)

The Hobbit: The Search for More Money.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/356 "2012-07-25T16:22:34Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Brace yourself - it might become a trilogy: [‘The Hobbit’ Filmmakers in Deep Talks With Warner Bros. to Make Third Movie](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/hobbit-third-movie-warner-bros-353719)

I sure hope not…I don’t think, under any examination of the actual book, it’s possibly long enough to justify three parts. That’s a LOT of padding…

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**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/357 "2012-07-25T16:27:54Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I sure hope not…I don’t think, under any examination of the actual book, it’s possibly long enough to justify three parts. That’s a LOT of padding…

Word on the (extremely vague, speculative) street is that it’s not so much an expansion of the second movie as much as a return of the “bridge film” idea. Film 2 should still conclude “The Hobbit.” Film 3 will, if made, depict some of the events between “The Hobbit” and LOTR as described in the Appendices.

I think this is less a money grab than a “Jackson can’t let go of the LOTRverse” situation… and honestly, I can’t really blame him. He’s created a beautiful cinematic universe in which he gets to play with some of the best actors and effects artists in the business. If Jackson and his cowriters manage to come up with a compelling, coherent narrative for the third film, I’m all for it. It’s a ridiculously tall order, though.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/358 "2012-07-25T16:36:23Z")

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But really all there is in there is the very sparsely described White Council vs. Necromancer intrigues and Gollum’s adventures in Sauron’s pain pits.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/359 "2012-07-25T16:46:46Z")

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Between coming home and finding the silverware gone and leaving in a bang what really happens over those 60 years?

Frodo/Sam/Merry/Pippin are born  
Gimli is born  
Aragon leaves Rivendell and travels thourgh Rohan/Gondor and into the East  
Gandalf wanders around  
White Council debates the rings  
Sauron builds Mordor back up  
Gollum wanders and is captured  
Gandalf/Aragorn hunt Gollum

Looks sparse with no character to connect them unless you use Gandalf or Aragorn. But the movies have all had Hobbits to ground them. Not sure how this would work.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/360 "2012-07-25T17:29:41Z")

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> [@Grey](#):
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> Gandalf/Aragorn hunt Gollum

I don’t recall Aragorn hunting Gollum.  
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