# The Hobbit movie(s) anticipation thread

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**Created:** [October 22, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969 "2010-10-22T02:44:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/361 "2012-07-25T17:32:49Z")

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That was how Gandalf gets a chance to interrogate Gollum and why Legolas shows up in Rivendell - Gollum escapes from the elves of Mirkwood.

More details based on the books. Gandalf is uneasy about Bilbo and the ring. He starts looking for Gollum but fails to find him and he lets the matter rest. After seeing Bilbo’s behaviour in letting go of the ring following the birthday party he enlists Aragorn to help him and they search everywhere. Gandalf gets frustrated and realizes Isildur may have left a description of the ruling ring in Minas Tirith. So he leaves Aragorn and finds the scroll that talks about glowing elvish script on the ring.

Aragorn meanwhile, finds Gollum.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/362 "2012-07-25T17:46:58Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I don’t recall Aragorn hunting Gollum.  
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[per Wiki;](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aragorn)

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> Gandalf asked Aragorn to track Gollum, who had previously possessed the Ring. This hunt led Aragorn across Rhovanion, and he finally captured Gollum in the Dead Marshes northwest of Mordor and brought him captive to King Thranduil’s halls in Mirkwood, where Gandalf questioned him.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/363 "2012-07-25T17:54:36Z")

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Thanks, MrDibble.

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**Author:** ![A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Dodgy_Dude)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/364 "2012-07-25T17:56:48Z")

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At what point in the story does the first movie end?

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/365 "2012-07-25T18:01:53Z")

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Well the recent footage I’ve seen shows barrels and that’s it. So I’m guessing escape from Thranduil’s halls will mark the end.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/366 "2012-07-25T20:04:13Z")

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> [@Grey](#):
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> Well the recent footage I’ve seen shows barrels and that’s it. So I’m guessing escape from Thranduil’s halls will mark the end.

They do show the town of Dale in this last video blog, so it seems they get to there.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/367 "2012-07-25T20:09:56Z")

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But Dale is after Lake Town and after Bilbo floats down the river and sees the Lonely Mountain. That’s strikes me as a better place to fade to black than wandering up the lake and through Dale.

Maybe they’ll show the arrival of Smaug, the fall of Dale and the end of the Kingdom Under the Mountain at the start of the movie.

I remain worried and excited - though less worried than before.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/368 "2012-07-25T20:19:48Z")

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Dale in the video blog looks pretty spruce, so I’m imagining a flashback.

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**Author:** ![Disheavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Disheavel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disheavel)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/369 "2012-07-25T22:40:58Z")

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I think the scenes of Dale and actually almost this entire last video blog is prefaced by Peter Jackson effectively saying, “You are lucky to be seeing this as most of this is in the second movie.” So I agree with the barrels being a good breaking point as that is what we’ve seen in the earlier blogs.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/370 "2012-07-26T00:10:07Z")

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[Three Hobbit Movies?](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/hobbit-third-movie-warner-bros-353719)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/371 "2012-07-26T01:36:24Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [Three Hobbit Movies?](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/hobbit-third-movie-warner-bros-353719)

Wow, that’s almost exactly like post #354!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/372 "2012-07-26T01:38:20Z")

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Not a bad fan film, BTW: behold _The Hunt for Gollum_: [- YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHoOaSnuuzw)

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**Author:** ![Meurglys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Meurglys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meurglys)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/373 "2012-07-26T10:47:22Z")

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Here’s [some speculaion](http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/07/five-possible-reasons-that-the-hobbit-is-spilling-over-into-a-third-movie) on what more might be included in a trilogy…

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2012, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/374 "2012-07-26T11:15:12Z")

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TORN on the third movie:

> **[Third ‘Hobbit’ movie: How? What? When? Why?](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/07/26/59799-third-hobbit-movie-how-what-when-why/)**
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> I admit, when I first heard talk of "a third 'Hobbit' movie" from the floor of Comic-Con, I was skeptical. Reporters Quickbeam and Justin brought back footage from a press conference (that you can watch right here) breaking the story that additional...

As much as I like any Movie Middle Earth goodness, and (unlike some purists) like MOST of what PJ has done, but I’m still dubious that a third movie could work.

Brian

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/375 "2012-07-30T17:12:19Z")

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As posted elsewhere, it is now 3 films.

> **[Update: Peter Jackson Confirms Third ‘Hobbit’ Film](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/07/30/59780-peter-jackson-confirms-third-film/)**
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> Note: Updated with confirmation about third film's release date and content. Updated with Official Press Release as well. In a note posted to Facebook this morning (in the U.S.) Peter Jackson confirmed there will be a third film in the "Hobbit"...

According to TORN, the third film will be shown Summer 2014  
Brian

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/376 "2012-07-30T18:56:30Z")

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Yep, it is official. Three movies. Wow.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/377 "2012-07-30T18:59:10Z")

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This will not go well.

Or,if you want to make more Middle Earth movies go ahead and make them but don’t call cobble them all together and hang them off The Hobbit.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/378 "2012-07-30T19:50:12Z")

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> [@Grey](#):
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> This will not go well.
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> Or,if you want to make more Middle Earth movies go ahead and make them but don’t call cobble them all together and hang them off The Hobbit.

I’m pretty much a Peter Jackson supporter, but I kind of agree. I would have just preferred two extended editions. Odd choice.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/379 "2012-07-30T23:11:48Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I’m pretty much a Peter Jackson supporter, but I kind of agree. I would have just preferred two extended editions. Odd choice.

I’ll withhold judgement on three Hobbit films - I think it can work, interweaving the known Hobbit storyline with Gandalf’s involvement with the White Council and the Necromancer - but we’ll see.  
It’s the Extended Edition idea I’ve started to have problems with. While I think PJ did fine with them in LOTR, I have the feeling that a film maker may get sloppy with the storyline in released movies, filling in the holes with an extended edition later. I recall some discussion about _Prometheus_, that Scott might release a special edition that fills in the (giant, gaping) storyline problems in that film. I feel that a movie should be released that tells a whole, complete story - any extended edition might include scenes that were cut for time/lack of importance, but it should not be necessary to do so to fill in holes left in the main release.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/380 "2012-07-31T03:36:48Z")

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Just saw the _Hobbit_ trailer today at a showing of _The Dark Knight Rises_. It looked good! I have a lot of confidence in PJ (despite quite a few nits to pick in LOTR) and know he’ll give a trilogy his best shot. He wouldn’t have asked for more work, I suspect (and hope), if he didn’t have some good ideas that he wanted to see realized on screen.

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