# The Hobbit movie(s) anticipation thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 22, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969 "2010-10-22T02:44:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/21 "2010-10-22T16:51:39Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> Who will play Smaug?

What is James Earl Jones voice like now?

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/22 "2010-10-22T17:15:10Z")

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I nominate Sean Connery for the voice of Smaug.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/23 "2010-10-22T17:42:14Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> I nominate Sean Connery for the voice of Smaug.

He has experience in the dragon department, right?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/24 "2010-10-22T20:22:00Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> Who will play Smaug?
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> And will they bastardize the story to add a love interest? (Other than Gollum, of course)

I think De Toro did not rule out Ron Perlman.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/25 "2010-10-22T20:25:11Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I think De Toro did not rule out Ron Perlman.

Perfect.

Although BRIAN BLESSED would work as well.

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/26 "2010-10-22T21:23:04Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> Who will play Smaug?

I’d like any of these:

Derek Jacobi  
Peter O’Toole  
Geoffrey Rush  
Martin Clunes

Or maybe an out-of-left-field choice for comic timing sensibility:

Hugh Laurie

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/27 "2010-10-22T21:34:11Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> It looks like it will, indeed, happen. Let’s have this thread, if you all don’t object, to talk about it.
> 
> The cast has just been unofficially announced. It sounds quite likely.
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> Tim from the Office is Bilbo. Not sure who the others are.
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> [Here is Aint-it-Cool’s report on it.](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47150)
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> **Martin Freeman – Bilbo Baggins  
> Richard Armitage - Thorin Oakenshield  
> Aidan Turner - Kili  
> Rob Kazinsky – Fili  
> Graham McTavish – Dwalin  
> John Callen – Oin  
> Stephen Hunter – Bombur  
> Mark Hadlow – Dori  
> Peter Hambleton – Gloin**

I have no idea who any of those guys are.

I just hope Del Toro doesnt try to match his Hobbit at all costs with the Lord of the Rings movies (like Lucas redesigning the original trilogy to fit better with his new shit). It wouldnt make any sense, as the Hobbit has precisely a very different flavour. I also hope he makes it more digestible thant TLOTR trilogy, but considering that’s Del Toro, I doubt it, he trampled on Hellboy’s finesse and wit like an obese on an ant farm.

P.S: I really disliked LOTR movies, except for the first. I much prefer the Ralph Bakshi flick. But then again, I am no teenager with milk out of my nose, that might explain.

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/28 "2010-10-22T21:44:35Z")

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I thought Del Toro decided not to direct after all? Tired of the long drawn-out squabbling, IIRC.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/29 "2010-10-22T22:39:38Z")

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GDT is not directing - he dropped out because he had other commitments and the process was taking a LOT longer than he had allocated.

PJ is now directiong

GDT still has a cowriter credit

Brian

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/30 "2010-10-22T23:27:58Z")

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> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#):
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> I have no idea who any of those guys are.
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> P.S: I really disliked LOTR movies, except for the first… But then again, I am no teenager with milk out of my nose, that might explain.

Nor do I, but I enjoyed the LOTR films. I’m an old guy with Dom Pérignon running out of my nose.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/31 "2010-10-22T23:58:55Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> I wonder how they’ll handle the elves? They’re much less serious and dignified, much more the magical [Fair Folk,](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheFairFolk) in _The Hobbit_ than in _LOTR._

On the other hand, these movies are expected to have much more of the “serious” story that wasn’t actually seen in the book–the White Council, the Necromancer. And there was stated intent to go for a “hard” PG-13 rating; they’re not interested in making a children’s movie.

I expect that the Hobbit movies will be closer in feel to the LOTR movies than _The Hobbit_ was to _The Lord of the Rings_. I’d be astonished if they didn’t use elements of the score, and even fragments of scenes shot for LOTR, to explicitly tie them all together.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/32 "2010-10-23T00:15:11Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> And will they bastardize the story to add a love interest?

Do we know _for sure_ that one of Dori, Nori, Ori, Oin, Fili, Kili, Bifur, Bofur, Bombur etc. was not a dwarf woman? If I remember my appendix from LOTR correctly, dwarf women can have beards, and often go abroad dressed as men.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/33 "2010-10-23T00:29:20Z")

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> [@teela\_brown](#):
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> I thought Del Toro decided not to direct after all? Tired of the long drawn-out squabbling, IIRC.

He isn’t. Peter Jackson is.

However, some of the casting could remain the same.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/34 "2010-10-23T00:31:47Z")

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> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#):
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> Do we know _for sure_ that one of Dori, Nori, Ori, Oin, Fili, Kili, Bifur, Bofur, Bombur etc. was not a dwarf woman? If I remember my appendix from LOTR correctly, dwarf women can have beards, and often go abroad dressed as men.

Jesus Christ, not the “Bearded Dwarven Women” controversy again!! I’ve left that behind with my roleplaying years, I ain’t going back to it.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/35 "2010-10-23T02:22:00Z")

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What’s the controversy? Dwarf women have beards.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/36 "2010-10-23T03:04:39Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> What’s the controversy? Dwarf women have beards.

In a Pratchett book that’s hilarious, in a Tolkien one that’s just ridiculous ( darn, you got me dragged into it. 10 years of psychotherapy, hypnotism and meditation just down the drain. Ah thank you very much!)

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/37 "2010-10-24T00:48:59Z")

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My husband and I just watched the BBC _Sherlock_, with Martin Freeman as Watson. He was great. I’m very happy with him as Bilbo.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/38 "2010-10-24T01:06:12Z")

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> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#):
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> In a Pratchett book that’s hilarious, in a Tolkien one that’s just ridiculous

In a book where trees can walk and talk, giant spiders roam the mountains, and ghosts fight battles, bearded females barely scratches the ‘ridiculous’ surface.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/39 "2010-10-24T07:12:13Z")

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PLUS:  
Peter Jackson involvement  
Martin Freeman involement

QUESTIONABLE:  
How did they deal with the New Zealand union issue?  
How did they deal with the PJ LOTR accountant issue?  
How did they deal with the MF Sherlock conflict issue?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/40 "2010-10-25T15:06:07Z")

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By the way, did anyone else see the cool “reunion” pictures of the Lord of the Rings cast in this weeks Entertainment Weekly?

It was neat.

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