# The Hobbit movie(s) anticipation thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 22, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969 "2010-10-22T02:44:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/521 "2012-12-13T01:24:08Z")
I’m going Sunday, but has anyone seen it yet? The reviews look mainly positive, but the 48 FPS reviews are looking quite bad. The effects look worse, the lighting looks worse, and the props/sets look faker. I’m seeing it in 2D 24FPS. I’ve read a few reviews that say the movie is a lot better that way and at that frame rate. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/522 "2012-12-13T01:49:33Z")
I’m seeing it in 24, because I’m more interested in the film than in the technology. I would LIKE to see it in 48, but I can’t do 3D, so I don’t know if that will end up working out. I’d hate to pay those kinds of prices for the ~ 30 minutes that I can handle 3D without my eyeballs falling out of my head. What I’ll be interested to see is if this new framerate catches on, if it will lead to improvements in set building and light matching to make those “substitutions” less obvious, or if movies will move more towards being entirely shot in “real” locations to avoid the issue entirely. It’s an interesting puzzle for the props and set making people, and I am really interested in how it’s all going to work out! ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/523 "2012-12-13T03:31:52Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > The reviews look mainly positive… Technically true, I guess. It’s at 74% on RT and Metacritic has an average score of 60, so critics don’t seem overly enthusiastic about it. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/524 "2012-12-13T03:56:38Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > The reviews look mainly positive, but the 48 FPS reviews are looking quite bad. The effects look worse, the lighting looks worse, and the props/sets look faker. I haven’t seen a 48FPS review where I’ve been able to really understand the objection, except that it violates the reviewer’s expectation about what movies are _supposed_ to look like (as compared to, in some cases, TV or “video”). Some of them really seem to boil down to “It looks so real! It’s awful!” However, it hasn’t been clear that any of the reviews have been for 2D 48FPS, which is what I’d be interested in. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/525 "2012-12-13T04:24:07Z")
Is there a 2D 48FPS version? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/526 "2012-12-13T04:38:48Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > Is there a 2D 48FPS version? At one point, it was looking like that was…maybe happening? As far as I know, it hasn’t happened and 24 FPS is 2D only. I could be wrong; let me know. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/527 "2012-12-13T04:42:51Z")
I did just check all the local theaters around here. We have some showing the 48 FPS(marked HFR) and all those screenings are 3D. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/528 "2012-12-13T04:49:04Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > Is there a 2D 48FPS version? I _think_ not, alas. There has been plenty of _talk_ about all the possible combinations of technologies. [This](http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Find-Out-Where-You-Can-See-Hobbit-Groundbreaking-48-fps-33928.html), which I just found, says, > [@](#): > > …the aptly named new site 48 fps Movies, which is putting together a list of the places that are equipped for both 48 fps and 3D. That’s important, since Warner Bros. won’t be releasing the 48 fps version of The Hobbit in 2D-- if you’re in for one new technology, you’re in for the other one as well. So that would be, not–but the last bit there isn’t right, because there _will_ be 3D 24FPS. So… while the version I’m seeing Sunday is 2D 24FPS, I hold out hope that I can check out the 48 at some point–which maybe no reviewers have even seen, as yet. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/529 "2012-12-13T04:54:31Z")
I just want to update that 48fps list I posted earlier…that was apparently an IMAX-only 48fps list. There are additional standard screen 48fps showings at other theaters. [http://www.48fpsmovies.com/48-fps-theater-list/](http://www.48fpsmovies.com/48-fps-theater-list/) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/530 "2012-12-13T05:00:09Z")
And the site does confirm that the 2D 48FPS is not screening. I’d love to see an extended trailer that way, but I really do prefer both 2D and 24FPS seems like the way to go. Still, I’m curious about higher frame rates. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/531 "2012-12-13T18:57:51Z")
I bought my ticket last night for a 48fps showing tomorrow night; I hope I don’t regret my choice. I could have gone with standard 3D or 2D. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/532 "2012-12-14T02:56:29Z")
Wow, it opens tomorrow and it’s currently at 49% (top critics) on the Tomato Meter based on 37 reviews. On the one hand: JP, you better not have Kong’d these films! On the other: Skyfall, a thoroughly bad movie with maybe a few cool things in it, is clocking at 91% (top critics) on that same meter, so there is a bit of a tomato credibility-gap to think about. The major criticisms seem to be about pacing, so maybe I’ll go to a matinee next week and nip out to Starbucks and read the paper during any slow spots. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/533 "2012-12-14T03:28:22Z")
Since this is the “anticipation” thread, and we’re no long anticipating, I’d like to suggest that this thread ((11 pages long) be closed and we start a new thread commenting on the actual movie rather than on the trailers, sneak peaks, speculation, and so forth. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/534 "2012-12-14T03:53:32Z")
For G-d’s sake, er, please be so kind as to post a link. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/535 "2012-12-14T04:15:42Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > Since this is the “anticipation” thread, and we’re no long anticipating, I’d like to suggest that this thread ((11 pages long) be closed and we start a new thread commenting on the actual movie rather than on the trailers, sneak peaks, speculation, and so forth. Done. I moved over three posts from this thread that seem to belong in the new thread. **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/536 "2012-12-14T13:15:17Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > For G-d’s sake, er, please be so kind as to post a link. > > 🙂 > **[Hobbit Movie -- I've seen it! \[open spoilers\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=675509)** > > Well I’ve seen it at the cinema, 48fps in 3D. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . … . ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/537 "2013-05-08T17:40:27Z")
Unlocked at OP’s request, for anticipation about the next two movies. Discussion about the first film should continue to go in the other thread. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/538 "2013-05-08T17:59:33Z")
Is it definitely two more movies? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/539 "2013-05-08T18:37:07Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Is it definitely two more movies? ☹ It is definitely two more bloated movies. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/540 "2013-05-08T18:43:59Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > It is definitely two more bloated movies. I’m hoping the soundtracks for the next two are… a little more varied than the first was? Course, it didn’t help much that one of the limited new motifs was the Radagast theme music, which makes me think of demented 1940s typewriting clerks more than anything remotely Middle Earthian. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969.md?page=28)