# The Hobbit movie(s) anticipation thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 22, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969 "2010-10-22T02:44:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/681 "2013-12-13T22:12:24Z")

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Haven’t seen it yet, but in response to **sohvan** ’s spoiler: OMG, he put in MORE battles???

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**Author:** ![jkirkman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@jkirkman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jkirkman)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/682 "2013-12-13T22:47:17Z")

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In response to **C K Dexter Haven** –

But of course 🕶

I often feel like PJ got the ‘A Clockwork Orange’ treatment and was forced to watch “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom” over and over and over and over again.

This would explain the slapstick elements, as well as the fascination with underground mine cars, levers, etc.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/683 "2013-12-13T23:25:24Z")

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[With enough reviews in, it has settled at 74% positive,](http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_hobbit_the_desolation_of_smaug/) which is 9% better than the first one.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/684 "2013-12-14T01:40:01Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [With enough reviews in, it has settled at 74% positive,](http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_hobbit_the_desolation_of_smaug/) which is 9% better than the first one.

Though RT Top Critics (a number I trust more) have settled at high 60’s, which is still pretty close to your number. Top Critics for part one settled at high 40’s, so 60’s is much better response.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/685 "2013-12-14T08:15:05Z")

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Jesus, those special effects were intrusive. Nearly King Kong dinosaur stampede bad.

And that dragons scene went on for waaaaaaaaaaaaay too long

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/686 "2013-12-14T15:41:11Z")

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Saw it last night with husband and friends. I’ll try to be spoiler-friendly here.  
I think I like it. I’m not sure yet. Sadly, it’s going to be hard to watch it over again to find out, because I’m arachnophobic (yes it was unpleasant, no I didn’t actually SEE but one spider (god damn “oh it’s over NOPE SYKE!” jump scenes) thanks for asking)

It’s VERY different. My husband has faint memories of Hobbit circa seventh grade, and he thought it was fine, but I’ve read it every year since childhood, and it was hard to watch how far the plotting has diverged. It truly felt like a giant D&D mockup of someone who was really really inspired by the Hobbit, didn’t feel quite able to make up their own plotline, but didn’t want to crib DIRECTLY from the source material. But I wanted to watch The Hobbit - not “vaguely inspired by the actions and characters of the Hobbit and the Appendices” - so I don’t know.  
That said - I still liked it. Divorced from the book, the characters make sense of themselves and the pacing is MUCH better than the first one (the plotline splitting is a great help). I didn’t hate Tauriel, Legolas and Kili were pretty, Thorin was kingly and pompous, and nothing as egregious as the giant Troll king was in evidence.

I just don’t know if I can think of it as the Hobbit.

Smaug was fricking fantastic tho. Oh my lord. Beautifully done.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/687 "2013-12-14T16:02:29Z")

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My son’s report is that he doesn’t think it was a good movie, but it was engaging and enjoyable to watch.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/688 "2013-12-14T16:54:28Z")

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Shouldn’t the last few posts be split off into their own thread? Now that it’s out it no longer an anticipation thread, and 14 pages is pretty long.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/689 "2013-12-14T17:46:31Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Shouldn’t the last few posts be split off into their own thread? Now that it’s out it no longer an anticipation thread, and 14 pages is pretty long.

Agreed. Here you go: [The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug - Seen it; open spoilers - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=710423)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/690 "2013-12-14T19:28:43Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Shouldn’t the last few posts be split off into their own thread? Now that it’s out it no longer an anticipation thread, and 14 pages is pretty long.

It is still the anticipation thread(why wouldn’t it be?), though I agree that reviews for each movie deserve their own thread, which is what Elendil’s Heir has done. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/691 "2013-12-14T19:44:25Z")

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After all, there’s still a third movie to anticipate.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/692 "2013-12-14T21:23:52Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Shouldn’t the last few posts be split off into their own thread? Now that it’s out it no longer an anticipation thread, and 14 pages is pretty long.

This is what happens when someone comes up with a New and Better Standard.  
Betamax and VHS. Serial com ports and USB. USB 1, USB 2, USB 3.  
And stuff doesn’t always work.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/693 "2013-12-15T21:58:51Z")

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Why didn’t Gandalf just summon the Eagles to carry them everywhere?: [Ornithology](http://oglaf.com/ornithology/) (sfw).

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/694 "2014-04-24T14:43:47Z")

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Sounds like the final movie has had a title change.

[The Hobbit: Battle of the Five Armies](http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=117473)

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/695 "2014-04-24T15:43:47Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Sounds like the final movie has had a title change.
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> [The Hobbit: Battle of the Five Armies](http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=117473)

ugh… while I understand his reasoning - it now sounds like part v of x instead of the final part of the trilogy… surely could have ben a better title.

IMHO, should have just shortened it to “…and back again”

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/696 "2014-04-24T17:20:02Z")

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Here is PJs post (also mentions DoS Extended)

> **[Peter Jackson](https://www.facebook.com/PeterJacksonNZ?ref=ts&fref=ts)**
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> Peter Jackson. 1,972,692 likes · 207 talking about this. Filmmaker, Pukerua Bay, New Zealand

Brian

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/697 "2014-04-24T17:48:58Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> Here is PJs post (also mentions DoS Extended)  
> [Peter Jackson](https://www.facebook.com/PeterJacksonNZ?ref=ts&fref=ts)
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> Brian

Yep, and I hope that those extra 25 minutes help improve the movie as much as the first one’s did.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/698 "2014-04-24T19:59:02Z")

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Tell me about it. Well, the new title for the third installment isn’t too bad.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/699 "2014-07-27T22:19:08Z")

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The teaser for the teaser is up -

> **[Warner Bros. announces teaser trailer debut for The Hobbit: The Battle of the...](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/07/27/91603-warner-bros-announces-teaser-trailer-debut-for-the-hobbit-the-battle-of-the-five-armies/)**
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> For the eleventy bajillion readers who keep asking, "when is the teaser trailer coming?" we finally have a concrete answer.... and a 15-second sneak peek. (A teaser for the teaser. How recursive.) The new teaser trailer for #TheHobbit: The Battle of...

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/700 "2014-07-28T19:27:29Z")

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[Here is the teaser trailer for the final movie.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgNNb8bm_b8)

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