# The Hobbit movie(s) anticipation thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 22, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969 "2010-10-22T02:44:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/701 "2014-07-28T20:13:44Z")

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…so…horrible…

Not sure I can take any more. It sickens me.

😛

Seriously, though. That’s all wrong. Just…wrong.

Although the shot of Smaug torching Laketown was pretty decent.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/702 "2014-07-28T20:28:45Z")

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Shoot me.

Overwrought, campy effects, stupidity, and god help me I think it’s another bloody Radagast sled ride.

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**Author:** ![Barking\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Barking\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barking_Dog)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/703 "2014-07-28T20:57:35Z")

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> [@Grey](#):
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> … god help me I think it’s another bloody Radagast sled ride.

I’m beginning to wonder if PJ or the Studio has decreed that there must be a minimum number of EPIC CHASE!!1! scenes per movie.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/704 "2014-07-28T21:44:34Z")

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Definite WTF moment with the wagon on the ice (think it is Dwarven and not Radagast). (tie in with Dain’s army on battle goats I think)

Good music and cool armor at least. And I like the poster:

> **[New The Hobbit: the Battle of the Five Armies teaser poster](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/07/28/91788-new-the-hobbit-the-battle-of-the-five-armies-teaser-poster/)**
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> Hot off the press. Check this one folks.

Brian

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/705 "2014-07-28T22:12:04Z")

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What’s with the scene of Galadriel kissing Gandalf? Is it another death experience for Gandalf?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/706 "2014-07-28T22:30:56Z")

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> [@Deeg](#):
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> What’s with the scene of Galadriel kissing Gandalf? Is it another death experience for Gandalf?

He must get rescued from the Necromancer’s hold. I’m betting he is passed out.

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/707 "2014-07-29T03:27:12Z")

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PJ has a pretty low opinion of Gandalf, it seems.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/708 "2014-07-29T05:39:54Z")

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I don’t see myself being able to watch the last installment.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/709 "2014-07-29T13:38:12Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> (tie in with Dain’s army on battle goats I think)

twitch…twitch

“battle goats”? What the holy fuck are battle goats?

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/710 "2014-07-29T16:59:17Z")

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> [@Deeg](#):
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> What’s with the scene of Galadriel kissing Gandalf? Is it another death experience for Gandalf?

[What](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FlatWhat)

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/711 "2014-07-29T17:16:51Z")

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> [@Grey](#):
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> twitch…twitch
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> “battle goats”? What the holy fuck are battle goats?

[![](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/war-goats.jpg) ](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/war-goats.jpg)

Ok, so TORN calls them war-goats. Basically ride able (at least by Dwarves) gotas. In armor.

(I forget, how did Dain’s army arrive in the book?)

brian

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/712 "2014-07-29T17:25:55Z")

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Not by goats - they marched.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/713 "2014-07-29T17:28:20Z")

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> [@Grey](#):
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> Not by goats - they marched.

Yup - in fact, as I recall correctly, the point is made that dwarves can carry great loads over long distances on foot (so if they are allowed in to the lonely mountain, they would have with them lots of supplies).

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/714 "2014-07-29T18:02:40Z")

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Not to mention they would allow Thorin to open a second gate stretching the besieging army to the point where they could not prevent Erebor’s continual resupply from the Iron Hills. It forces the parties into direct conflict instead of the static bloodless siege they’re enduring.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/715 "2014-07-30T21:55:36Z")

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Where did this second “the” come from all of a sudden? According to my edition of _The Hobbit_ (the book), the conflict was called “The Battle of Five Armies.” Not “THE Five Armies.”

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/716 "2014-07-30T22:00:42Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> Where did this second “the” come from all of a sudden? According to my edition of _The Hobbit_ (the book), the conflict was called “The Battle of Five Armies.” Not “THE Five Armies.”

Presumably, the same place the “battle goats” came from. 😃

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/717 "2014-07-30T23:05:59Z")

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Sprinkling extra “the” makes it “theology”, n’est-ce pas? Hence deep, requiring those large dwarf boots.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/718 "2014-07-31T01:18:43Z")

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Perhaps the screenwriter is a graduate of The Ohio State University.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/719 "2014-07-31T07:20:53Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Perhaps the screenwriter is a graduate of The Ohio State University.

A plausible explanation as any.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/720 "2014-08-01T11:07:30Z")

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Guessing the “the” is in parallel to the three LOTR Movies starting with “The” as well

TORN’s frame-by-frame analysis:

> **[The Hobbit Trailer Analysis - The Battle of the Five Armies | Lord of the...](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/07/31/91784-frame-by-frame-analysis-of-the-hobbit-the-battle-of-the-five-armies-trailer/)**
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> Trailer for The Battle of the Five Armies - Broken down by TheOneRing.net staff.

Brian

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