# The Hobbit movie(s) anticipation thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 22, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969 "2010-10-22T02:44:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/101 "2011-07-10T03:44:25Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> The dwarves look… too shiny and pristine, somehow. Almost alien. Not at all how I’d envisioned them. The pics of Freeman as Bilbo are nice, though.

I tend to think they’ll be grimier looking in the movie. Those are publicity stills.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/102 "2011-07-10T04:06:34Z")

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I find it very interesting how they’ve managed to make the dwarfs look short, even when devoid of context and my being fully aware they’re really all 6 foot actors.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/103 "2011-07-12T20:29:01Z")

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[And here is Fili and Kili](http://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/the-hitlist-blog.aspx?feat=2001455c-fe15-47c0-9c93-321e454c7f80)

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/104 "2011-07-12T21:05:29Z")

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I’m a little said they’re not going with the colored caps described in the book. Would it kill these dwarves to add a little color to their wardrobe?

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/105 "2011-07-12T22:53:15Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> I’m a little said they’re not going with the colored caps described in the book. Would it kill these dwarves to add a little color to their wardrobe?

Disney would sue. They have a copyright on the whole “little people in brightly colored clothing” thing.

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**Author:** ![Plumbkrazy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@Plumbkrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumbkrazy)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/106 "2011-07-13T00:21:18Z")

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I’ve never been more excited about the release of a movie(s).

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/107 "2011-07-13T00:34:16Z")

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> [@Plumbkrazy](#):
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> I’ve never been more excited about the release of a movie(s).

Well, I was more pumped for Phantom Menace. I also was hugely pumped for all three Lord of the Rings.

Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

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**Author:** ![Plumbkrazy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@Plumbkrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumbkrazy)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/108 "2011-07-13T00:42:07Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Well, I was more pumped for Phantom Menace. I also was hugely pumped for all three Lord of the Rings.
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> Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

Very true, but I think The Hobbit is as close to a sure thing as you can expect from a movie.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/109 "2011-07-13T00:49:26Z")

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Shhh! Don’t jinx it!

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/110 "2011-07-13T01:48:37Z")

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> [@Plumbkrazy](#):
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> Very true, but I think The Hobbit is as close to a sure thing as you can expect from a movie.

Oh, I’m quite confident, especially with Peter Jackson directing.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/111 "2011-07-13T05:45:12Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [And here is Fili and Kili](http://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/the-hitlist-blog.aspx?feat=2001455c-fe15-47c0-9c93-321e454c7f80)

Seconding what \*\*GuanoLad \*\*said. How the hell’d they make those actors look so short with nothing else to compare them to in the image! Amazing!

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/112 "2011-07-13T06:05:27Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Seconding what \*\*GuanoLad \*\*said. How the hell’d they make those actors look so short with nothing else to compare them to in the image! Amazing!

Very short in-seam. Either that or the dwarfs are sagging.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/113 "2011-07-13T06:41:27Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Seconding what \*\*GuanoLad \*\*said. How the hell’d they make those actors look so short with nothing else to compare them to in the image! Amazing!

I notice several things in those shots that support this illusion. There may be more, but I’m no expert.

1. The camera’s position is shot from slightly above the subject’s faces, so we’re looking ever so slightly down at them.

2. There is significant empty space above their heads in each shot.

3. The proportions of their clothing is odd and overwhelms them, which I guess serves to make them look like kids bundled in winter clothing: coats at knee or mid calf lengths, ridiculously heavy boots, belts that look 6 inches tall, a scarf that looks inches thick, sleeves big enough for their legs to fit through. Huge hair, also. (And I’d bet those outfits are hot and uncomfortable)

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/114 "2011-07-13T06:47:58Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I hope they get Ian Holm to be “old” Bilbo talking to Frodo. That would be awesome.

Ian Holm is still the “real” Frodo, as far as I’m concerned. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/115 "2011-07-14T00:21:35Z")

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[And here is Bofur, Bifur, and Bombur.](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2011/07/13/46028-ign-exclusive-bofur-bifur-and-bombur/)

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/116 "2011-07-14T00:31:27Z")

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Add Balin, Dwalin, and Thorin, and we’ll have it wrapped up.

BTW, are they pronounced Bah-lin and Dwah-lin, or Bay-lin and Dway-lin?

ETA: I always heard it in my head as the latter, but I suspect it is the former. And my ROTK pronunciation guide appendix isn’t at hand.

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**Author:** ![Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky_the_Wonder_Spirit)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/117 "2011-07-14T01:35:57Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> How the hell’d they make those actors look so short with nothing else to compare them to in the image! Amazing!

Two words: Elf. Magic.

> [@squeegee](#):
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> BTW, are they pronounced Bah-lin and Dwah-lin, or Bay-lin and Dway-lin?
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> ETA: I always heard it in my head as the latter, but I suspect it is the former. And my ROTK pronunciation guide appendix isn’t at hand.

Gimli talks about his cousin “Bah-lin” in FOTR.

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**Author:** ![xkit0katx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/50afbb/32.png) [@xkit0katx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xkit0katx)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/118 "2011-07-14T19:44:27Z")

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On the audiobook version I have it’s pronounced “Bah-lin” and “Dwah-lin”, so that’s what I’ve got cemented in my head.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/119 "2011-07-15T11:27:03Z")

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Only Thorin remains unrevealed:

> **[TIME Exclusive: First Look At Balin And Dwalin](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2011/07/15/46126-first-look-at-balin-and-dwalin/)**
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> Today's much-anticipated "first look" at two more Dwarves from The Hobbit come to us courtesy of TIME. And it is indeed high time we met Ken Stott as Balin and Graham McTavish as Dwalin. Here follows the accompanying description of these Dwarves:...

Brian

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hobbit-movie-s-anticipation-thread/557969/120 "2011-07-17T20:39:31Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> Only Thorin remains unrevealed:

[And here is Thorin Oakenshield, holding Orcrist.](http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2011/07/17/46145-theonering-net-exclusive-behold-thorin-oakenshield-and-orcrist/)

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