# The Homecoming Queen Has a Penis!

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 5, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647 "2007-10-05T16:19:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/1 "2007-10-05T16:19:26Z")

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And he was born with it, too!

Seventeen year old [Aaron Zaggy](http://www.wltx.com/FYI/story.aspx?storyid=54322) decided he’d spice up this years’s Homecoming elections by running for the position of Homecoming Queen. And won. According to the linked article he got a majority of the votes cast, though only about half the elegible students voted. (Gosh, that sounds familiar.)

And now parents are complaining to the school board that this shouldn’t have happened, that some kind of apology is mandated, and other idiocy.

:rolleyes:

I want apologies from the parents involved, that they’re being such idiots.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/2 "2007-10-05T16:22:44Z")

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Democracy in action, bitches! Ehh, what’s the big deal? It’s not like Homecoming Queens get scholarships or anything, or any sort of respect really (other than from the guy who gets to brag about ‘f\*cking the homecoming queen, guys!’)

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/3 "2007-10-05T16:36:17Z")

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> "I didn’t run but my best friend ran. And she was really mad, she was upset,” Jasmine Anderson, a senior, said.

heh. Ya lost. To a guy. heh.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/4 "2007-10-05T16:36:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Cat Fight]  
…It’s not like Homecoming Queens get scholarships or anything, or any sort of respect really (other than from the guy who gets to brag about ‘f\*cking the homecoming queen, guys!’)  
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I think the types of guys who’d normally brag in this manner would likely _not_ brag about f\*cking this homecoming queen.

I’d find this real funny, personally, if it happened back in my high school\*. I’m still trying to figure out what, precisely, the complainers want the board to apologize for. I assume they said yes because they didn’t think he’d win, which was stupid because everybody I know would vote for him.

\*: Come to think of it, a guy did almost make the field hockey team the year after I graduated. He even volunteered to wear the skirt.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/5 "2007-10-05T16:46:48Z")

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Our running back (university) beat out two other candidates for the Homecoming queen as a write-in candidate. Imagine how they felt.

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**Author:** ![Beaucarnea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c0e974/32.png) [@Beaucarnea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beaucarnea)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/6 "2007-10-05T16:56:13Z")

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I saw this too, and the outrage expressed by a former homecoming queen and some of the other women is really embarrassing. Why are they so upset? Isn’t equality what we have always wanted?

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**Author:** ![Sunrazor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sunrazor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunrazor)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/7 "2007-10-05T17:24:48Z")

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I’d like to think it’s a statement made by the students about the obsolete nature of stereotypical gender roles. That’s what I’d like to think. In fact, I’m going to think that, regardless of any evidence to the contrary.

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/8 "2007-10-05T17:30:37Z")

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> I’m still trying to figure out what, precisely, the complainers want the board to apologize for.

“We apologize to you for what your children did.”

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/9 "2007-10-05T17:44:23Z")

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The belle of the ball has balls, in more than one sense. Good on 'im and all who voted for him.

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/10 "2007-10-05T17:48:43Z")

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:rolleyes:  
It’s high school.  
If something isn’t a popularity contest, it’s a joke or an act of rebellion.  
This ticks all the boxes…of course he won!  
Vote for the dude= a chance to piss off the cheerleaders and their moms and it’s funny…win-win for 90% of the student body!

Someone is upset their princess didn’t get a prize, everyone else just thinks it was funny. Grow up, get over yourselves and move on.

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/11 "2007-10-05T17:51:13Z")

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Did anybody else think of [this indelible Academy Award sight](http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/movieawards/oscars/2005-02-23-oscar-book-big-show_x.htm)? (Note: Trey and Matt were also tripping on acid at the time.)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/12 "2007-10-05T18:14:59Z")

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You could’ve almost used Julie Brown’s original title for this thread

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8hxCpAdCJI)

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/13 "2007-10-05T18:31:40Z")

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
You could’ve almost used Julie Brown’s original title for this thread  
 ![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/b8hxCpAdCJI/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/b8hxCpAdCJI?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque  
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“Everybody run – well, not **every** body, just the girls – and those girls had better be pretty and popular, too!”

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/14 "2007-10-06T10:16:43Z")

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[QUOTE=garygnu]  
I’m still trying to figure out what, precisely, the complainers want the board to apologize for.  
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I think that the complainers want the board to apologize for this (from the article mentioned in the OP):

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> Zaggy received permission from the University City School Board to run as Homecoming Queen.

I haven’t been to an American high school, so I am bemused by some of the things I see in movies, but it seems reasonable to me that a Homecoming Queen competition would be reserved to female entrants, and the Homecoming King competition reserved to male entrants. Although, personally, this is not one of the things I would care about. But I can definitely understand why the parent of an upset child would complain, if it seems that long-standing expectations of some kind of competition are being ignored.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/15 "2007-10-06T10:37:21Z")

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I suspect you’re correct, **Arnold Winkelried**. However, I’d think that the time to protest would have been when the request was approved, or even after that, but before the election. By it’s very nature no one could win the Homecoming election by running in secrecy. (Well, not without stuffing the ballot box, but I doubt that’s the case, here - if there were even a whiff of that I have to believe that the parents protesting would have been screaming that from the rafters.)

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/16 "2007-10-06T11:38:25Z")

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Back in the 60s, one of my university-teachers-to-be ran for the position of [Lucia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Lucia_Day) at his small rural school and won because, or so the story goes, he had the longest hair of all the candidates. Uproar ensued. In the end, he shared honours with the (female) runner-up.

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**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/17 "2007-10-06T13:24:10Z")

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[QUOTE=OtakuLoki]  
The Homecoming Queen Has a Penis! .  
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And sues!

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**Author:** ![Julius\_Henry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@Julius\_Henry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Julius_Henry)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/18 "2007-10-06T13:42:27Z")

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From the [St. Louis Post-Dispatch](http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/AF23745D453CEB8886257365000C36B5?OpenDocument) (no registration required):

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> District officials acknowledged that the twosome made an unusual pair as king and queen but said there was a lesson to be learned.
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> “This situation also presents a life lesson of sorts by demonstrating the importance of voting and knowing that one’s actions at the ballot box can have a lasting impact,” the board said in a statement.

This may be the most sensible statement made about this incident. I’d also be interested in knowing how many students usually vote in these things. I would suspect turnout was considerably higher than normal.

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**Author:** ![Khampelf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Khampelf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khampelf)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/19 "2007-10-07T06:35:06Z")

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Never underestimate the power of the protest vote. Well, when it comes to highschoolers, anyway. When only one person bothered to get enough signatures on the required petition to run for senior class president, and was therefore running unopposed, we ‘elected’ a fictitious fearless leader look alike named ‘Adolph Zimmerman’ through a write in campaign that promised outlandish things like putting the teachers in concentration camps and turning the Gym into an MX missile depot.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-homecoming-queen-has-a-penis/421647/20 "2007-10-07T07:16:35Z")

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> “A queen is a female. A woman. A girl,” one person said.

Oh, honey, I know a village full of people who say you’ve got another think comin’.
