# The horse meant murder **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 8, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057 "2004-03-08T01:52:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/61 "2004-04-16T22:40:14Z")
Is the lead sentence in a local newspaper story about [the latest on DQ, Baygirl, and Bayboy](http://www.salemnews.com/). ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/62 "2004-04-16T22:47:37Z")
**ETF** , I’m not trying to be sarcastic, but exactly which story is about DQ and those poor horses? I just see a link about underage driving… ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/63 "2004-04-16T22:48:47Z")
er… underage _drinking_ and driving. ---
**Author:** ![dwyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwyr/32/363_2.png) [@dwyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dwyr)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/64 "2004-04-16T22:58:34Z")
Try clicking on “see today’s stories”. That one is titled Hamilton horse-napping. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/65 "2004-04-16T23:01:33Z")
They have the links set up strangely on that site. I thinkink it was supposed to be [this story on “Horse-napping”](http://www.ecnnews.com/cgi-bin/frame/getpage2.pl?cgi-bin/s/thestoryv2.pl+slug-hhorse). I opened the link in a new window to get the full URL. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/66 "2004-04-16T23:07:25Z")
Dammit! Try [again.](http://www.ecnnews.com/cgi-bin/s/thestoryv2.pl?slug-hhorse) (They don’t make that site easy…) There we go. Worked this time (in preview). ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/67 "2004-04-17T01:32:03Z")
Thanks, **Eats\_Crayons**. **ETF** , I hope your boss gets her back before that woman does any further damage. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2004, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/68 "2004-04-19T13:31:48Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > **ETF** - I live just outside of Nashville, so it’s quite the haul. But if you have a trailer and a free weekend, you’re welcome to bring him down. Ah, well. As luck would have it, on Saturday I talked to a fellow boarder at my barn who’s talked to the owner of the horse I care for about adopting him as a companion for her blind Arabian gelding. Looks pretty close to a done deal. Now, if things can go equally well for Bayboy and Baygirl… I can tell you that the investigator for the SPCA is pursuing gathering the evidence she’ll need to take action, and she’s been getting an earful from the kids here who’ve witnessed incidents that will support abuse allegations. The investigator has to get the parents’ permission to take official statements, but the one mother I’ve talked to about it is all for it. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/69 "2004-05-21T04:46:39Z")
I know this is an old thread, and I apologize, but I really am interested (and hopeful)… **ETF** , any word on Bayboy and Baygirl yet? Please tell me the story has a happy ending. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/70 "2004-05-21T05:18:24Z")
Some good news, some not. First, the bad: As of this writing, Bayboy is still with DQ. No word on progress of the MSPCA investigation. I’m told DQ has bought a new horse. One person who saw it said she thought it looked like a two-year-old. :: Pause for shudders of horror :: Good news: Baygirl is back in our barn! DQ’s lawyer called barn owner’s lawyer shortly after he’d filed a civil complaint for damages and return of the mare, asking what it would take “to make this case go away”. Barn owner’s lawyer filled in clueless DQ lawyer on just what sort of client he had, and made it clear that return of Baygirl was nonnegotiable. By the time DQ was required under court rules to file an answer to the complaint, she capitulated, and after mutual waivers were signed, Baygirl returned to a joyous welcome home. Baygirl looks fine. Before her horsenapping she was quite affectionate. Right after her return she seemed more wary and standoffish, not wanting anyone to touch her head. But she’s coming around and seems quite happy now. We’re all thrilled to have gotten her away from DQ, whose traffic arrest led to this resolution: > [@](#): > > had an Ipswich charge of operating under the influence of liquor continued without a finding for one year. She was ordered to pay a $250 state fee, $250 to the head injury fund, a $50 drunk driving fee, $50 to the victim witness fund and a $65 monthly probation fee. She will lose her license for 45 days and must attend the CASP alcohol safety program. A charge of operating under the influence of drugs was dismissed. A charge of negligent operation of a motor vehicle was continued without a finding for one year and she was ordered to pay $200 court costs. She was found not responsible for a marked lanes violation ---
**Author:** ![Satyricon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@Satyricon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satyricon)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/71 "2004-05-21T05:44:47Z")
Ooooh. DQ needs a good, solid kick in the head from Bayboy. Sounds like she thinks of him not as a living creature with feelings, but some broken-down car that’s been giving her trouble. Can’t you report her for animal abuse to someone? The ASPCA maybe? I wonder if her tune would change if she was on the receiving end of the whip instead. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/72 "2004-05-21T12:39:05Z")
> [@Satyricon](#): > > Ooooh. DQ needs a good, solid kick in the head from Bayboy. If she keeps on as she’s been going, there’s a good chance of that. > [@](#): > > Sounds like she thinks of him not as a living creature with feelings, but some broken-down car that’s been giving her trouble. Can’t you report her for animal abuse to someone? The ASPCA maybe? The state SPCA is investigating her, and since she’s no longer at the barn, we don’t know what action, if any, they’ve taken. The investigator did explain that, at this level of abuse, they don’t have the power to seize Bayboy, but they can and will warn her and monitor for signs of future abuse. > [@](#): > > I wonder if her tune would change if she was on the receiving end of the whip instead. There’s a lot of us at the barn who’d sure like to try it and see. ---
**Author:** ![Bimble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b2d939/32.png) [@Bimble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimble)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057/73 "2004-05-21T13:11:28Z")
Contact the International League for the Protection of Horses ([www.ilph.org](http://www.ilph.org)) PLEASE!!! I cannot BEAR the thought of this poor animal going thru more hell and I’m SURE that at the very least that the ILPH will do what it can to advise you or may be even able to help secure a loving home for this horse! I sponsor two horses thru the ILPH that for whatever reason cannot be rehomed. PLEASE give them a call/email!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-horse-meant-murder/233057.md?page=3)