# The host of ESPN First Take proved this morning she has Oatmeal for Brains **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 26, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969 "2016-09-26T20:26:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969/61 "2016-09-29T01:28:30Z")
> [@Fleetwood](#): > > Since 2000 New England is 7-6 vs Denver, going 4-5 at Denver. 4-5 is not great (includes two playoff losses) but they have won up there. Losing record in denver means Belechick is not the genius you think he is ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969/62 "2016-09-29T03:03:29Z")
Doesn’t mean that Denver is the team to beat, either. ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969/63 "2016-09-29T03:14:49Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Doesn’t mean that Denver is the team to beat, either. No team is scoring on that Denver defense ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969/64 "2016-09-29T03:16:31Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > A minor nit: [Siemian](http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SiemTr00.htm) isn’t a rookie. He’s in his first year as a starter, obviously, but the Broncos selected him in the 7th round of the 2015 draft. He appeared in one game for the Broncos last year, making one rushing attempt for -1 yard (possibly a kneeldown). And the Broncos, who had Sieman on their roster all of last season, traded for Sanchez and drafted Lynch. It doesn’t appear they were certain Sieman’s a quarterback you can build a team around. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969/65 "2016-09-29T09:02:20Z")
> [@cg16](#): > > No team is scoring on that Denver defense They’ve allowed 57 points this regular season (not counting the preseason), twice allowing 20. They’ve been scored upon in every game. Therefore, despite your claim to the contrary, teams ARE scoring on them. Conversely, the Patriots have scored over 20 points per game (again, just regular season, no preseason), with their lowest outburst being 23. The Patriots are scoring more points per game than the Broncos are allowing. Pure, simple math shows that you are incorrect in your assessment. Your argument is invalid. ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969/66 "2016-09-29T11:01:23Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > They’ve allowed 57 points this regular season (not counting the preseason), twice allowing 20. > > They’ve been scored upon in every game. > > Therefore, despite your claim to the contrary, teams ARE scoring on them. > Conversely, the Patriots have scored over 20 points per game (again, just regular season, no preseason), with their lowest outburst being 23. > > The Patriots are scoring more points per game than the Broncos are allowing. Pure, simple math shows that you are incorrect in your assessment. > > Your argument is invalid. pats have not played anyone with a good Offense yet Bills, texans and dolphins ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969/67 "2016-09-29T11:31:51Z")
> [@cg16](#): > > pats have not played anyone with a good Offense yet > > Bills, texans and dolphins What the fuck does that have to do with the Pats’ offense or the Denver defense? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969/68 "2016-09-29T12:08:42Z")
> [@cg16](#): > > pats have not played anyone with a good Offense yet > > Bills, texans and dolphins And if they played the Broncos this week, they still wouldn’t have played anyone with a good offense. The Broncos are 20th in the league in passing, 14th in rushing. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969/69 "2016-09-29T12:23:11Z")
> [@cg16](#): > > pats have not played anyone with a good Offense yet > > Bills, texans and dolphins You can’t even get the teams they’ve played right - it was Cardinals, Dolphins, Texans. They play the Bills this week. Denver’s 3 opponents to date all have a losing record - 1-2. Of the 3 teams the Patriots have beat, one has a winning record - the Texans are 2-1, and the others have 1-2 records. Therefore, it is an _undeniable fact by mathematical analysis_ that the Patriots are better than the Broncos. ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969/70 "2016-09-29T15:30:44Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > And if they played the Broncos this week, they still wouldn’t have played anyone with a good offense. The Broncos are 20th in the league in passing, 14th in rushing. Let me rephrase that Pats have played three teams who are bad on both sides of the ball. Denver is dominant on defense and ok on offense ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969/71 "2016-09-29T15:31:59Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > You can’t even get the teams they’ve played right - it was Cardinals, Dolphins, Texans. They play the Bills this week. > > Denver’s 3 opponents to date all have a losing record - 1-2. Of the 3 teams the Patriots have beat, one has a winning record - the Texans are 2-1, and the others have 1-2 records. Therefore, it is an _undeniable fact by mathematical analysis_ that the Patriots are better than the Broncos. For the money, I’m going with denver because of the defense ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969/72 "2016-09-29T18:49:23Z")
> [@cg16](#): > > For the money, I’m going with denver because of the defense For the record, according to defensive team rankings through three weeks, the Broncos are: - #7 in yards allowed - #4 in passing yards allowed - #27 in rushing yards allowed - #8 in points allowed - #14 in takeaway / giveaway ratio (currently at +0) - #23 in sacks Source: [2023 NFL Offense Total Team Stat Leaders - ESPN](http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/position/defense) My take: good defense so far (it’s still early, and one weird game can throw those stats off), but not as dominant as you think, cg16. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-host-of-espn-first-take-proved-this-morning-she-has-oatmeal-for-brains/766969.md?page=3)