# The Huckster's out! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 15, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952 "2011-05-15T01:38:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/41 "2011-05-17T01:24:16Z")
This is really irrelevant. **Qin Shi Huangdi** , you asked for a cite on the Dominionist issue and you got one. The whole topic may be irrelevant, but if you don’t care about it in the first place, it doesn’t make sense to continue on the tangent AND drag Obama into it. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/42 "2011-05-17T01:37:14Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > On the contrary church membership percentage-wise was actually lower than to-day because they wished to make sure you were saved before you became a church member. > [@](#): > > Which was condemned by all major clergymen and politicians within months. Ooh, months! A little slow for the people in the bonfires. > [@](#): > > That is a debated point within such circles. Yup, debated until, … um was it 1926? > [@](#): > > Not my ideal society, but better then Ayers’ version of utopia. Ok, I’m going to ask YOU for a cite about what Ayers sees as uptopia. Not what someone else claims he says, but what HE says. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/43 "2011-05-17T01:39:35Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > This is really irrelevant. **Qin Shi Huangdi** , you asked for a cite on the Dominionist issue and you got one. The whole topic may be irrelevant, but if you don’t care about it in the first place, it doesn’t make sense to continue on the tangent AND drag Obama into it. Oops, read this too late, and I have to say I agree. Forget it, Qin, we a re hijacking a thread. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/44 "2011-05-17T02:41:14Z")
Considering the personal problems I’ve had with evangelicals, combined with how annoying they became when encouraged by W, I would not have voted for Huckabee unless he were running against Satan Himself. Now that he is no longer threatening to hijack our political system, well, he is kinda cute isn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/45 "2011-05-17T20:50:34Z")
You’re a baptist preacher (former or current), you shouldn’t be allowed to run, vote or raise a family. You have the right to keep your delusion, you DON’T have the right to force it on other people, even “at gunpoint”, and you’re not allowed to futz up the education system either. Just let people who can think for themselves take care o’ that, preacher. I’ve never been more happy to hear he’s not running THIS time, but just wait for 2016. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/46 "2011-05-17T20:57:30Z")
By 2016, he’ll make Chris Christie look like Kate Moss. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/47 "2011-05-17T22:42:59Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > You’re a baptist preacher (former or current), you shouldn’t be allowed to run, vote or raise a family. You have the right to keep your delusion, you DON’T have the right to force it on other people, even “at gunpoint”, and you’re not allowed to futz up the education system either. Just let people who can think for themselves take care o’ that, preacher. > > I’ve never been more happy to hear he’s not running THIS time, but just wait for 2016. Religious people shouldn’t run for office. Gotcha. Too bad. I liked Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/48 "2011-05-17T23:13:36Z")
I’m sure that **Locrian** is trying to whoosh _somebody_, but I’m not sure whom. I mean, surely he doesn’t think that religious people (or maybe just Baptists) shouldn’t be allowed to raise a family. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/49 "2011-05-18T00:44:39Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > I don’t find this much of a concern since our current President has associated with a terrorist and was the member of a church whose preacher spoke treason. _Shrugs_ That was intended to big big whoosh wasn’t it? I sure hope so. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/50 "2011-05-18T01:58:06Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Next time, if you don’t care about evidence, don’t ask for it. Also, folks; program one of your function keys to type “ **Qin Shi Huangdi** is on record as not caring about evidence” with a link to that post. I’ll save time by enabling you to focus on people who are actually interested in ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/51 "2011-05-18T02:03:05Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Wouldn’t there be witch burnings? > [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Which was condemned by all major clergymen and politicians within months. > [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Women who couldn’t vote? > [@](#): > > That is a debated point within such circles. Really? You’re hanging you hat on the notion that we should pay attention to people who take “months” to arrive at the conclusion that any rational person reaches immediately, and find it necessary to continue “debating” a point that is settled in modern enlightened civilization. Good luck with that… ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/52 "2011-05-18T02:05:23Z")
He wanted to run but his friends Jesus and Ted Nugent said not to, so whatcha gonna do? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/53 "2011-05-18T02:06:31Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > I don’t find this much of a concern since our current President has associated with a terrorist and was the member of a church whose preacher spoke treason. _Shrugs_ Sorry, dude; in these parts the goalposts are shot with tranq darts and shackled before the debate begins. They ain’t going nowhere. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/54 "2011-05-18T05:30:02Z")
When Ayers was involved in his last bombing, Obama was living in Indonesia and was going to school. He was 9 years old. When Obama was a political organizer in Chicago many many years later, Ayers was a rehabilitated expert on education. He was instrumental is setting up the classes and schools for poor. He was a respected author and organizer. That is a terrorist in QINland? ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/55 "2011-05-20T01:38:02Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > You’re a baptist preacher (former or current), you shouldn’t be allowed to run, vote or raise a family. You have the right to keep your delusion, you DON’T have the right to force it on other people, even “at gunpoint”, and you’re not allowed to futz up the education system either. Just let people who can think for themselves take care o’ that, preacher. > > I’ve never been more happy to hear he’s not running THIS time, but just wait for 2016. Little Mr. Stalin aren’t you? You’re a bigot pure and simple. > [@gonzomax](#): > > When Ayers was involved in his last bombing, Obama was living in Indonesia and was going to school. He was 9 years old. > When Obama was a political organizer in Chicago many many years later, Ayers was a rehabilitated expert on education. He was instrumental is setting up the classes and schools for poor. He was a respected author and organizer. That is a terrorist in QINland? He hasn’t apologized or expressed any regret for his terrorism, indeed he continues to insist on the righteousness of his cause. He is rather comparable to Kurt Waldheim. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/56 "2011-05-20T02:07:38Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > He hasn’t apologized or expressed any regret The subject of this thread is Mr. Huckabee. Has Mr. Huckabee apologized or expressed any regret? ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/57 "2011-05-20T03:01:23Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > The subject of this thread is Mr. Huckabee. Has Mr. Huckabee apologized or expressed any regret? He hasn’t done anything to apologize for. He has not murdered anyone, committed terrorism, say offensive remarks, indeed he is along with Ron Paul one of the most blameless politicians. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/58 "2011-05-20T10:48:06Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > He hasn’t done anything to apologize for. I’m referring to the advocacy of terrorism\* mentioned earlier in the thread. Please try to keep up with the class. \*definition: violence directed against noncombatants for political purposes ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/59 "2011-05-21T01:08:12Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I’m referring to the advocacy of terrorism\* mentioned earlier in the thread. Please try to keep up with the class. > > \*definition: violence directed against noncombatants for political purposes Huckabee hasn’t personally advocated the death penalty for homosexuals or idolaters or whatnot. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/60 "2011-05-21T01:10:40Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Little Mr. Stalin aren’t you? You’re a bigot pure and simple. Save the personal commentary for the Pit. It’s not appropriate for this forum. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952.md?page=4)