# The Huckster's out!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 15, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952 "2011-05-15T01:38:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/61 "2011-05-21T20:45:02Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Huckabee hasn’t personally advocated the death penalty for homosexuals or idolaters or whatnot.

“at gunpoint” – violence, check

“young people” – against noncombatants, check

“to force them to listen to David Barton” – to advance a political agenda, check and final check. Advocacy of terrorism.

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**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/62 "2011-05-21T22:26:34Z")

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Anyone catch The Daily Show May 16?

Here’s Huckabee playing Cat Scratch Fever with Fox’s good friend Ted Nugent, who …“[makes the pussy purr with a stroke of his hand](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOssthIRrM)”

Oh, and [here’s Ted waving machine guns around at an earlier concert,](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXRxdZIGce4&feature=related) suggesting “Obama, suck on one of these ya punk”, “Hey Hillary, you might want to ride one of these, you worthless bitch”. Also calls Dianne Feinstein a worthless whore.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/63 "2011-05-22T03:01:47Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> You’re a baptist preacher (former or current), you shouldn’t be allowed to run, vote or raise a family. You have the right to keep your delusion, you DON’T have the right to force it on other people, even “at gunpoint”, and you’re not allowed to futz up the education system either. Just let people who can think for themselves take care o’ that, preacher.
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> I’ve never been more happy to hear he’s not running THIS time, but just wait for 2016.

[Tommy Douglas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas) was a Baptist preacher before he led the first socialist government in North America as the Premier of Saskatchewan, followed by moving into federal politics and being instrumental in introducing Canada’s single payer universal health care, amongst other things. I don’t recall him forcing his religious views on anyone at gunpoint.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/64 "2011-05-22T03:30:00Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> “at gunpoint” – violence, check
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> “young people” – against noncombatants, check
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> “to force them to listen to David Barton” – to advance a political agenda, check and final check. Advocacy of terrorism.

Is there a reason people are taking this comment literally when it’s obviously a figure of speech? Criticize Huckabee for endorsing Barton if you want; there’s no point in twisting his words. When Michelle Obama talks about the epidemic of childhood obesity, she’s not saying overweight children are like a disease.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/65 "2011-05-22T17:48:14Z")

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She’s not saying that the _children_ are a disease, but their obesity is. And even if Huckabee wasn’t speaking literally, it’s still a danger sign when a politician chooses to use terroristic figures of speech.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/66 "2011-05-26T03:27:32Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> So, yes, he associates with Christian Reconstructionists and perhaps is sympathetic to their ideas. What’s so wrong with that-Obama has not put the far more insane ideas of Ayres into practice, neither will Huckabee should he be elected-he did not when he was governor of Arkansas.

Actually, Huckabee is known for nothing so much as pardoning every inmate who “found Jesus” in the slammer.

> [@Marley23](#):
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> Is there a reason people are taking this comment literally when it’s obviously a figure of speech? Criticize Huckabee for endorsing Barton if you want; there’s no point in twisting his words. When Michelle Obama talks about the epidemic of childhood obesity, she’s not saying overweight children are like a disease.

Right… but if she talked about an epidemic of obese children, she might be… and that’s a lot closer to what Huckabee was saying.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/67 "2011-05-26T03:40:19Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Actually, Huckabee is known for nothing so much as pardoning every inmate who “found Jesus” in the slammer.

Exactly. Theonomists/Reconstructionists strongly believe that the penalogy of Mosaic Law must be instituted full on especially for murder.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/68 "2011-05-26T03:54:18Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Exactly. Theonomists/Reconstructionists strongly believe that the penalogy of Mosaic Law must be instituted full on especially for murder.

Translation please.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/69 "2011-05-26T15:15:38Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Exactly. Theonomists/Reconstructionists strongly believe that the penalogy of Mosaic Law must be instituted full on especially for murder.

I don’t really give a shit which religious school of thought is guiding his actions. The point is that the state has no business commuting sentences on the grounds of religious conversions (whether or not they’re real).

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/70 "2011-05-26T15:34:39Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> …What’s so wrong with that-Obama has not put the far more insane ideas of Ayres into practice, neither will Huckabee should he be elected-he did not when he was governor of Arkansas.

> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Exactly. Theonomists/Reconstructionists strongly believe that the penalogy of Mosaic Law must be instituted full on especially for murder.

So you are saying he didn’t implement his religious views while in office in the first post, and that he did implement them while in office in the second post?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/71 "2011-05-26T17:36:49Z")

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Technically, in the second post he just said that he _didn’t_ implement the religious views he is accused of having. He just didn’t dispute the fact that he _did_ implement some kind of religious view.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hucksters-out/581952/72 "2011-05-26T17:50:09Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Technically, in the second post he just said that he _didn’t_ implement the religious views he is accused of having. He just didn’t dispute the fact that he _did_ implement some kind of religious view.

Perhaps. That’s why I asked for a translation earlier, which I didn’t get.

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