# The Hulk vs. Superman

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hulk-vs-superman/682677>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 2, 2014, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hulk-vs-superman/682677 "2014-03-02T16:56:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hulk-vs-superman/682677/61 "2014-03-06T16:52:40Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> Superman and Hulk HAVE fought. Repeatedly.
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> Hulk has never won.

By editorial fiat. You may as well compare which pro wrestlers would win in a fight by using their fixed matches as metric.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hulk-vs-superman/682677/62 "2014-03-06T18:23:06Z")

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> [@Robert163](#):
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> superman was killed by doomsday  
> hulk has never been killed by anyone  
> hulk is indestructible  
> superman, apparently, is not
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> therefor, given enough time, hulk kills superman

Psh.

Funny thing is, the much maligned “Blue suit energy Superman” could easily defeat Hulk. He could drain the gamma energy easily, reverting Hulk to Banner.

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**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hulk-vs-superman/682677/63 "2014-03-06T18:28:15Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Psh.
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> Funny thing is, the much maligned “Blue suit energy Superman” could easily defeat Hulk. He could drain the gamma energy easily, reverting Hulk to Banner.

isint that kind of “press the magic button” and defeat the other guy?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hulk-vs-superman/682677/64 "2014-03-06T21:52:11Z")

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Yup. And Supes has the magic button and Hulk doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hulk-vs-superman/682677/65 "2014-03-06T22:06:44Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> By editorial fiat. You may as well compare which pro wrestlers would win in a fight by using their fixed matches as metric.

_Every_ fight _either_ of them has ever won has been by ‘editorial fiat’. They’re fictional characters. It comes with the territory.

Ignoring what’s actually _happened on the page_ is like comparing pro wrestlers by saying ‘I like Kidd better than Austin, therefor Kidd kicks Austin’s ass’.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hulk-vs-superman/682677/66 "2014-03-06T22:15:22Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> _Every_ fight _either_ of them has ever won has been by ‘editorial fiat’. They’re fictional characters. It comes with the territory.
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> Ignoring what’s actually _happened on the page_ is like comparing pro wrestlers by saying ‘I like Kidd better than Austin, therefor Kidd kicks Austin’s ass’.

It was not up to the writers and artists of the vs issues who won. The orders came from the editors of both companies. While editors can guide issues, much more freedom is typically granted to creators for non-permanent changes like death, disfigurement, etc. that would impact future in-continuity issues or require a retcon.

I’ve got lots of what’s-on-the-page in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hulk-vs-superman/682677/67 "2014-03-06T23:09:35Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Yup. And Supes has the magic button and Hulk doesn’t.

boring… terms of story telling

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hulk-vs-superman/682677/68 "2014-03-06T23:57:46Z")

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We’re arguing basic attributes and stats, not historical outcomes (none qualifies.) So, who’d win in a real brawl on the street, Sena or Big Show?

Addendum: stick and run (or fly) do not count as legitimate fighting techniques in a duel. You run or stay at a safe distance, you lose.

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hulk-vs-superman/682677/69 "2014-03-07T00:02:57Z")

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> [@the\_diego](#):
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> We’re arguing basic attributes and stats, not historical outcomes (none qualifies.) So, who’d win in a real brawl on the street, Sena or Big Show?
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> Addendum: stick and run (or fly) do not count as legitimate fighting techniques in a duel. You run or stay at a safe distance, you lose.

Game of Thrones spoiler reply:

Bronn the sellsword engages in a trial by combat fight with Ser Vardis, using hit and run and evasion to tire Vardis out before dispatching him with relative ease.  
“You don’t fight with honor!” - Lysa Arryn  
“No…but he did.” (gesturing towards the dead and rapidly descending opponent he just killed) - Bronn the Sellsword

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hulk-vs-superman/682677/70 "2014-03-07T00:24:32Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Now I’m wondering, has Superman ever actually punched anyone into the Sun? Maybe during All Star Superman since there is a scene that takes place on the Sun.

I thought that Superman threw Chemo into the sun in Superman #342, but I could be wrong.

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