The human race nears extinction--is forcing a woman to give birth acceptable?

Not our honor!

And if you’re so into the circle of life, then who needs humanity? If we can’t survive without resorting to systematic rape then we should just die off and make room for another species to evolve up that doesn’t need to rape to live, which would be just as good as having humanity, only better! That which is lost can be regained, right?

Well, let’s just say that we as a species are not unanimous in that reasoning. Ending lives is bad, not bothering to continue to create new ones is pretty neutral, IMO.

If it’s for instance artificial insemination it won’t be rape. Satisfied?

I just want the world to exist as long as possible and delay the Apocalypse. After all by your logic why not just nuke the world over right now?

Oh, great, forced artificial insemination. Way better than rape!

No.

Because it would kill people. Notably, with lots of pain and suffering, which is probably a lot more important than the actual ending of life.

Now ask me why what would be wrong with having everybody painlessly die all at once, instantly, simultaneously, with no awareness that it was coming, no time to fear, and no chance to regret or be regretted.

Go on. Ask me.

Insemination would be less traumatic for some women then sex.

How? You’re still forcing something into the body, with the added insult that the goal is for pregnancy to result. If anything, that’s worse.

And being raped would be lest traumatic for some women then being slowly fed feet-first into a meat grinder. What’s your point?

Maybe Marley just likes it the way it is at the moment? Just a guess.

Which is exactly why I don’t want an apocalypse right now.

If it’s a question of a single pregnant woman, then forcing her to carry the pregnancy to term only serves to delay the disappearance of the whole human race by at most 100 odd years – and for the tail end of that, the “human race” will really be “the human”. Even if one in general believes that the ends justified the means, I don’t see what good would be accomplished by forcing an unwilling woman to carry the pregnancy to term in this situation. You get one more baby who at best gets to watch the rest of humanity die and spend his or her remaining years the sole survivor of an otherwise extinct race.

OK, but I’m missing how you think nuking the whole world is a logical extension of anything anyone has said in this thread.

Hey, why does it even have to be a woman? Some girls hit puberty at 9 or 10. What if one of them is the lucky soul with the fertility gene?

Because of this:

I just want the world to exist as long as possible and delay the Apocalypse. After all by your logic why not just nuke the world over right now?

You do realize that according to you, by the time the apocalypse happens there by definition won’t be anyone left alive to mind it, right?

I’m still just not seeing how you make the connection, at all.

Yes but we might be able to stop it before it happens.

It wasn’t when I brought the issue up, but so be it.

Why bother though? By the time it happens, we’ll all be dead. Nobody will care.

honor shmonor. Honor means jack shit after we’re all dead. If we were living in a post pregnancy scare society, we’d all look back with disgust of all the horrible things we as a species had to do. But I bet most of us wouldn’t think OMG we lost our honor let’s end it all. Most of us would be thankful we live in better times.

What if it were some kind of neurological disease (virus or something) that makes women react extremely negatively, even violently, to the thought of getting pregnant. Interesting premise for a science fiction novel.