# The Hunter Biden Investigation {thread started in 2019}, Hunter Pardoned on December 1, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 28, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964 "2019-09-28T19:54:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/363 "2023-06-24T17:34:30Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > I absolutely love that the CIA makes an appearance, not only in your list of options, but in your #1. Don’t ever change man. So your read was that #1 is my most preferred answer? Any explicit hints that it’s not? What if what we’re seeing is a drive for completeness on one side and hasty, conclusory leaps on the other? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/364 "2023-06-24T19:52:58Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I understand that to say that they could try to get a lien but that they wouldn’t be able to charge you with a crime. Yes, but they could collect. and since it was a no prison plea deal anyway, adding in more years would be pointless. So his point was pointless. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/365 "2023-06-24T20:35:32Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > So your read was that #1 is my most preferred answer? Any explicit hints that it’s not? These business deals took place when _ **Joe Biden was out of office** _. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/366 "2023-06-24T20:51:16Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > These business deals took place when _ **Joe Biden was out of office** _. There’s no mention of business nor money in the quoted text. Assuming business is a leap that’s not supported by the evidence. It’s certainly plausible and likely, but it’s not a given. And, again, as said I am disinclined to both options 1 and 4, so your objection is completely unrelated. It’s like if I say that in theory, the Broncos could win, but there’s a 90% probability that they’ll lose, and you complain that I’m supporting the Broncos. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/367 "2023-07-13T14:48:34Z")
Republican supported “whistleblower” Gal Luft, the guy who was James Comer’s surprise witness in the Hunter Biden case, arrested as a Chinese spy. Er, an ‘unregistered foreign agent’ (i.e., a spy). > **[Gal Luft claimed he had dirt on the Bidens – now he’s facing charges](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/gal-luft-hunter-biden-indicted-b2373486.html)** > > The Israeli-American academic only claimed to be a ‘whistleblower’ after his arrest earlier this year, writes Andrew Feinberg ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/368 "2023-07-13T15:47:30Z")
It should be pointed out that he’s been wanted since 2017. It’s only been public knowledge in the last week. That is to say, the order of events is NOT: - Blew whistle on the Bidens - Wanted as a “Chinese spy” It is: - Wanted as a Chinese spy - Waits 6 years - “Blew whistle” on the Bidens ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/369 "2023-07-13T17:13:49Z")
It is amazing that the Republicans can’t do anything but commit impeachable activities and work with Chinese spies in their vain attempts to dig up dirt on the Bidens. It’s even more amazing how these losers keep falling on their face. Whatever happened to the timeworn and tested activities of digging through somebody’s trash in order to find dirt on them? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/370 "2023-07-13T17:14:47Z")
They have two handicaps: 1. There’s likely nothing to find. 2. These are profoundly stupid and incompetent people. The smart people aren’t involved in this nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/371 "2023-07-13T17:15:21Z")
Well, we are talking about James Comer. So… yeah. Good point. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/372 "2023-07-13T17:21:33Z")
1. Digging through trash involves actual work. They have Mexicans for that! ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/373 "2023-07-13T17:48:45Z")
It does seem that Luft is connected to CEFC and Patrick Ho Chi-ping. He **is** in a position to plausibly have information about Hunter. Of course, as a wanted man and a agent of the Chinese government, he’s also in a position to gain tremendously if he can use that connection to gain political protection in the US and harm Joe Biden. So he’s also plausibly in a position to receive items of questionable origin and provide them to anyone who would want them. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/374 "2023-07-13T17:52:20Z")
Woops, meant to post a link about Luft and CEFC: > **[Documents reveal ex-Hong Kong minister Patrick Ho’s offshore firms and...](https://hongkongfp.com/2018/07/24/documents-reveal-ex-hong-kong-minister-patrick-hos-offshore-firms-business-ties-mainland/)** > > Former Hong Kong minister Patrick Ho Chi-ping, who was charged in the US with bribing top African officials on behalf of a Chinese energy conglomerate, co-owns an obscure Hong Kong company with mainland energy investors through an offshore entity,... > **[Hong Kong Free Press](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Free_Press)** > > Hong Kong Free Press (HKFP) is a free, non-profit news website based in Hong Kong. It was co-founded in 2015 by Tom Grundy, who believed that the territory's press freedom was in decline, to provide an alternative to the dominant English-language news source, the South China Morning Post, and to cover the pro-democracy movement. > Before founding Hong Kong Free Press in 2015, Grundy was a social activist and a blogger who had lived in Hong Kong since around 2005. He wrote the blog Hong Wrong and... ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/375 "2023-07-13T17:56:45Z")
The Republican America Last committee is getting boring. They could at least find a lying scumbag with an entertaining story for us. Baghdad Bob had more credibility than these turkeys. They might as well start their testimony with “I’m telling the truth. Just ask my wife, Morgan Fairchild”. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/376 "2023-07-13T18:01:27Z")
From what I saw on the news last night, the cocaine was in or near a set of cubbies that reporters store their phones and cameras and such before they get to the Oval Office or press room. I can’t imagine what Hunter would be doing there. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a plant from someone at FOX or OANN trying to stir up some trouble for the Bidens. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/377 "2023-07-13T18:23:26Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a plant from someone at FOX or OANN trying to stir up some trouble for the Bidens. That was my first thought as well. Extended out to any one in the disloyal opposition. Stupidly unoriginal is their signature. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/378 "2023-07-13T19:31:48Z")
You should totally start that as a conspiracy theory. Float it around as a “fact” that “everyone” is saying. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/379 "2023-07-14T02:22:36Z")
People are talking about how OANN planted the cocaine. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/380 "2023-07-14T09:10:21Z")
That’s what I’ve read. More than one person has said that OANN may have planted the cocaine. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/381 "2023-07-14T09:41:44Z")
Really following in Hearst’s footsteps. “You supply the nose candy, I’ll supply the story.” ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/382 "2023-07-14T12:33:45Z")
OANN is one of the Russian propaganda outlets, right? Or, are they just useful idiots to Russian propaganda? I don’t even understand how this was supposed to work: 1. Cocaine found where the press puts their stuff 2. ??? 3. It’s Hunter Biden’s cocaine [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964.md?page=20)