# The Hunter Biden Investigation {thread started in 2019}, Hunter Pardoned on December 1, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 28, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964 "2019-09-28T19:54:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/383 "2023-07-14T13:08:49Z")

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They were never going to tell their audience (1), just that the coke was “in the White House” or “West Wing” (“they’ve heard of that, it _sounds_ specific!”) or similar vagueness.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/384 "2023-07-14T13:22:05Z")

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Ah, that makes sense. Lies and innuendo all the way. I really am stunned at how bad right-wing information sources have gotten. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/385 "2023-07-14T13:37:03Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I don’t even understand how this was supposed to work:
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> 1. Cocaine found where the press puts their stuff
> 2. ???
> 3. It’s Hunter Biden’s cocaine

That too complicated. It’s really just:

1. Cocaine found where the press puts their stuff
2. It’s Hunter Biden’s cocaine

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/386 "2023-07-14T13:54:35Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> It’s really just:
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> 1. Cocaine found where the press puts their stuff
> 2. It’s Hunter Biden’s cocaine

You forgot:

1. Therefore Joe Biden is the mastermind of a global crime family.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/387 "2023-07-14T13:56:52Z")

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While also being senile and incompetent.

The head doth spin.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/388 "2023-07-14T16:34:25Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Cocaine found where the press puts their stuff

The wingnut corners of Twitter that I see think that it was a dead drop for Hunter to pick up later. So at least some of them are trying to work the actual facts into the insanity.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/389 "2023-07-14T16:43:47Z")

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Because Hunter’s the only person in DC who uses cocaine, apparently.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/390 "2023-07-14T16:45:41Z")

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At least since Marion Barry died, I guess.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/391 "2023-07-14T16:55:34Z")

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Call me crazy, but if I’m Hunter Biden why would I stash cocaine in a part of the west wing where hundreds of people could stumble upon it? I’d probably go up to the residence part of the building and keep it there.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/392 "2023-07-14T18:47:54Z")

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Not sure of the best place for this, but this thread seems okay…

The Hunter Strikes Back

> **[Hunter Biden demands end to Trump attacks and says they may inspire violence](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/hunter-biden-lawyers-trump-defamation-b2375366.html)**
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> Letter mentions Paul Pelosi attack

> Lawyers for the president’s son [Hunter Biden](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/hunter-biden) sent [Donald Trump](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/donald-trump) a cease-and-desist letter on Thursday, alleging that the former president’s frequent hostile comments about Mr Biden are defamatory and likely to inspire violence.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/393 "2023-07-14T19:00:35Z")

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Future Fox News headline: “Gun-Toting Drug Addict Hunter Biden Threatens Violence Against Donald Trump”.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/394 "2023-07-15T21:30:25Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Call me crazy, but if I’m Hunter Biden why would I stash cocaine in a part of the west wing where hundreds of people could stumble upon it?

Not to mention, Hunter wasnt even in the White House that day.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/395 "2023-07-15T22:25:10Z")

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Apropos of nothing …

If I’m Hunter Biden, how likely am I to be searched when entering (let’s say any entrance to, or part of) the White House?

When … y’know … my dad’s the President of the United States of America.

Meaning: do they even/ever search the guy?

If not, then why would even a slightly paranoid Hunter Biden feel the need to stash … his … stash on entering the WH?

Yes. I know: I’m attempting to apply reason to a wholly unreasonable hypothetical, but … if not here, then where??

Search me 😉

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/396 "2023-07-15T22:31:38Z")

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Of course that’s what they’re going to say. We know the truth has to be much more conspiratorial.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/397 "2023-07-16T00:08:19Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@BobLibDem](#):
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> > Call me crazy, but if I’m Hunter Biden why would I stash cocaine in a part of the west wing where hundreds of people could stumble upon it?
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> Not to mention, Hunter wasnt even in the White House that day.

Because something something woke something woke. Also the globalist deep state.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/398 "2023-07-19T20:04:57Z")

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Here we go again…

> **[Second IRS whistleblower goes public at House Oversight hearing about Hunter...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/19/politics/oversight-committee-hearing-irs-whistleblowers/index.html)**
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> The House Oversight Committee is hearing from two IRS whistleblowers whose testimony alleging that the Hunter Biden criminal probe was mishandled has ignited a firestorm among House Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/399 "2023-07-19T22:44:53Z")

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Based on the CNN summary, he seems to fall into the same bucket as IRS Agent Shapley:

> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> - The DOJ was taking lead and the IRS investigation was just in the way, and this guy wouldn’t take the message.
> - Fear of making any mistakes made people too cautious, so anything short of a slam dunk went from being a “yellow light” to a “no go”, where usually it would be synonymous with a “green light”. And, while that’s arguably wrong, it’s not surprising.
> - Elections and midterms forced them to stop for months at a time.
> - Without appointees in office, for certain positions (e.g. California), the people who could approve stuff weren’t available and the temporary office holders might not have felt comfortable making those approvals (see #2).
> - The Executive is off limits for investigation by the Executive Branch.
> - Likewise, Barr made candidates off limits from investigation as well.

But if there’s a transcript of his testimony or opening statement, I’d go through it to see if there’s anything that doesn’t seem to fall under that bucket?

(In Shapley’s testimony, I did feel like Lesley Wolf’s activities merited further investigation.)

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/400 "2023-07-21T15:59:37Z")

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Just saw this on Twitter, and I’m wondering if this all has been confirmed? Jeff Tiedrich is too partisan to trust without verifying.

> [  
> @itsJeffTiedrich  
> ](https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich)
> 
> listen up, stupids: there is no “Hunter Biden laptop.” what exists is a disembodied hard drive that Rudy Giuliani farted on. here’s a dose of reality: someone hacked Hunter Biden’s iPhone. they stole his data and downloaded it to a laptop. “a” laptop — not “Hunter Biden’s” laptop. the hackers mixed some of Hunter Biden’s actual data with a lot of faked bullshit. forensic analysis has proved this. this laptop’s hard drive made its way to Rudy Giuliani. the drive may have also passed through the hands of as many as 40 people. your so-called “evidence” is fucking worthless. go read up about ‘chain of custody’ and get back to me. meanwhile, sit the fuck down and stop making noise, you sound like a weird obsessed loser
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> [Last edited10:37 AM · Jul 21, 2023](https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1682399432187211776/history)

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/401 "2023-07-21T16:19:14Z")

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I’d be skeptical of those assertions. From Hunter’s own lawyers:

> At no time did any individual…have Mr. Biden’s consent to access his **computer** data or share it with others.

Bolding added.

> **[Copy of what's believed to be Hunter Biden's laptop data turned over by...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-data-analysis/)**
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> The laptop and its alleged contents will be a key part of the investigation into the Biden family that House Republicans plan to take up in January.

If someone is saying that it’s information from his **phone** , that’s contrary to Team Biden’s public statements.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/402 "2023-07-21T16:27:40Z")

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I wouldn’t put to much weight on that word choice. A modern smart phone _is_ a computer.

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