# The Hunter Biden Investigation {thread started in 2019}, Hunter Pardoned on December 1, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 28, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964 "2019-09-28T19:54:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/423 "2023-07-26T17:54:09Z")
Well, this is an interesting development… > **[Judge says she's not ready to accept Hunter Biden's plea deal](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/26/1190211798/hunter-biden-plea-tax-charges)** > > Judge Maryellen Noreika demanded that the lawyers from both sides make clear that the deal does not convey broad immunity offered to Biden from prosecution on his business dealings. _The judge in the Hunter Biden case said Wednesday she is not ready to accept the plea deal struck between the president’s son and the Justice Department, and asked both parties to submit additional briefs and return to the court on a future date._ ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/424 "2023-07-26T17:56:50Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Well, this is an interesting development… What a surprise, it’s another Trump appointed judge. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/425 "2023-07-26T17:59:47Z")
I cannot help but think the bellyaching and caterwauling by the congressional Republicans had some effect here. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/426 "2023-07-26T18:14:30Z")
I don’t get the fascination with Hunter Biden that Republicans and Trumpists have. He’s a private citizen; he doesn’t work for his father, or benefit his father in any way. Not that is apparent, anyway; and Joe Biden seems to me to be far too ethical to allow such in any event. Is it just that Republicans/Trumpists believe that the President’s kids always work for their father (i.e. Ivanka, Jared, Donald Jr.), and therefore what the kids do is always to benefit the father? If Hunter Biden is a bad apple, that’s fine, such things happen. But I don’t see where his affairs have anything to do with his father, which Republicans/Trumpists seem to think is the case. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/427 "2023-07-26T18:17:12Z")
Guilt by association has been a thing forever. Wasn’t MTG trying to claim Biden was eviiiilll for finishing the work of FDR and LBJ? Also, every accusation is a confession. The older Trump kids are dirty as hell and everybody knows it ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/428 "2023-07-26T18:17:28Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I don’t see where his affairs have anything to do with his father, which Republicans/Trumpists seem to think is the case. Simple: [they couldn’t dig up any real dirt on Joe so they’re going after Hunter instead.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-hunter-biden-scandal-to-me/961392/36) ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/429 "2023-07-26T18:24:51Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Simple: [they couldn’t dig up any real dirt on Joe so they’re going after Hunter instead.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-hunter-biden-scandal-to-me/961392/36) This is the answer. Along with Republicans and Trump most ironically coining the term “Biden crime family”. It all boils down to their guy is slimy and dirty and appears to be breaking laws left-and-right, so they gotta manufacture some stuff about our guy that’s at least as bad. Some of it will stick, true or not. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/430 "2023-07-26T18:25:48Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > If Hunter Biden is a bad apple, that’s fine, such things happen. But I don’t see where his affairs have anything to do with his father, which Republicans/Trumpists seem to think is the case. I agree, but listen to them on any random day and it’s all “Biden Crime Family” and “Joe Biden is the most corrupt President ever.” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/431 "2023-07-26T18:30:05Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Joe Biden seems to me to be far too ethical to allow such in any event. That’s the difference. They see everything he does as nefarious in some way. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/432 "2023-07-26T18:31:29Z")
I’ve seen that. I just wish Republicans/Trumpists would make up their minds. Joe Biden is either a mastermind Godfather in charge of a crime family, or he’s a doddering old fool, suffering from dementia. I guess that he’s whatever they want him to be when it suits their purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/433 "2023-07-26T18:36:32Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Joe Biden is either a mastermind Godfather in charge of a crime family, or he’s a doddering old fool, suffering from dementia. I guess that he’s whatever they want him to be when it suits their purposes. They think he’s Two-Face, but they’re refusing to notice that their guy is the Joker. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/434 "2023-07-26T18:39:13Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I guess that he’s whatever they want him to be when it suits their purposes. And that’s why they’ll never change. It’s not about facts or logic or consistency. It’s about giving all the deplorables some excuse for not voting Democrat. Some will do it because “Biden is senile”, some because “Biden is an evil genius”, some because “Biden is a secret crime lord”, some because “Biden is a bad father”. Everybody latches onto their favorite excuse, and it doesn’t bother them if everyone else is using a different excuse, even if their excuses are mutually incompatible. “Just so long as we all agree that Biden is trash” is all they care about. ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/435 "2023-07-27T00:22:17Z")
The cries grow weaker as the evidence mounts. Trump is a separate issue. Biden has a lifetime record of lies. I have to wonder if the justice dept and the FBI are simply blinded by bias or does it go much deeper. It seems not many here really want the facts. If the shoe were on the other foot conservatives would be insisting the facts came out. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/436 "2023-07-27T00:26:44Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Joe Biden is either a mastermind Godfather in charge of a crime family, or he’s a doddering old fool, suffering from dementia. “To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself – that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word ‘doublethink’ involved the use of doublethink.” – George Orwell, _Nineteen Eighty-Four_ ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/437 "2023-07-27T00:33:16Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > Biden has a lifetime record of lies. Can you name a few of them? I am genuinely interested in what people think Biden’s lies are. I am not going to challenge if they are, in fact, lies, but I am interested in what they are? Can you list a few? ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/438 "2023-07-27T00:33:57Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > The cries grow weaker as the evidence mounts. Trump is a separate issue. Biden has a lifetime record of lies. I have to wonder if the justice dept and the FBI are simply blinded by bias or does it go much deeper. It seems not many here really want the facts. If the shoe were on the other foot conservatives would be insisting the facts came out. Man, Poe’s Law is a _bitch_, ain’t it? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/439 "2023-07-27T00:38:40Z")
You’ve presented no evidence for any of this. It really appears like you just have a deep personal problem with Biden, because I’ve never seen you actually present facts to support what you say about him. ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/440 "2023-07-27T00:49:03Z")
I don’t normally gloat but once all these investigations are wrapped up it will be hard not to. ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/441 "2023-07-27T00:57:37Z")
If you are so certain, why can’t you provide any evidence? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/442 "2023-07-27T01:19:20Z")
Guy’s storing it the same place where Lindell is keeping the election theft evidence. Packets upon packets upon packets of evidence! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964.md?page=23)