# The Hunter Biden Investigation {thread started in 2019}, Hunter Pardoned on December 1, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 28, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964 "2019-09-28T19:54:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/41 "2019-09-30T13:41:53Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > By the way, does anyone have a good source for the origin of the claim that Hunter made “ **up to** $50,000 per month”? If so I would really like to see it. All of the right wing pols are using the exact same phrasing which reeks of weaselly, technically correct, deception. I’m guessing that either there was one month that Hunter made $50,000 while most months he made much less, or else its one of those disclosure questions of the form “Made between $200,000 and $600,000 a year” and they fixated on the high end. “U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.” 😃 [https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived](https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived) ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/42 "2019-09-30T14:02:08Z")
If being overpaid is a crime, why the fuck hasn’t someone arrested the whole Trump family? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/43 "2019-09-30T15:15:14Z")
I get the Ukraine ‘scandal’ overall - can someone tell me what the Bidens supposedly did with China and what really happened? ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/44 "2019-09-30T16:51:55Z")
I posted these in the impeachment thread and I think they give a good overview of the Hunter Biden situation. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%...DRYkC8xm6Lvr1A](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%25...DRYkC8xm6Lvr1A) [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...DFKXYFJp2b8H\_A](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...DFKXYFJp2b8H_A) There is also a wikipedia article about H. Biden that lists the positions he’s held, including being appointed by GWB to the board of Amtrak. > **[Hunter Biden](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden)** > > Robert Hunter Biden (born February 4, 1970) is an American attorney who is the second son of U.S. President Joe Biden and his first wife Neilia Hunter Biden. He is also a hedge fund, venture capital, and private-equity fund investor who formerly worked as a lobbyist, banker, public administration official, and registered lobbyist-firm attorney. Biden was a founding board member of BHR Partners, a Chinese investment company. In 2020, he began exhibiting his paintings. > Biden was discharged fro... ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/45 "2019-09-30T17:14:27Z")
> [@SmellMyWort](#): > > I posted these in the impeachment thread and I think they give a good overview of the Hunter Biden situation. > [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%...DRYkC8xm6Lvr1A](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%25...DRYkC8xm6Lvr1A) > > [Bloomberg - Are you a robot?](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...DFKXYFJp2b8H_A) > > There is also a wikipedia article about H. Biden that lists the positions he’s held, including being appointed by GWB to the board of Amtrak. > [Hunter Biden - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden) First two links are dead - but the third had enough to give me the context I needed. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/46 "2019-09-30T18:19:49Z")
And he still has time to travel to Batesville, Arkansas! ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/47 "2019-09-30T18:37:46Z")
> [@simster](#): > > First two links are dead - but the third had enough to give me the context I needed. Thanks. Sorry about that. These should work: [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-25/here-s-what-we-know-about-joe-and-hunter-biden-in-ukraine?fbclid=IwAR0tt80BUwOcehLFvyeL6YUoLdcl\_u62P\_Ep7Ii\_fw2gmDFKXYFJp2b8H\_A](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-25/here-s-what-we-know-about-joe-and-hunter-biden-in-ukraine?fbclid=IwAR0tt80BUwOcehLFvyeL6YUoLdcl_u62P_Ep7Ii_fw2gmDFKXYFJp2b8H_A) Here is a bit about H. Biden’s compensation: > [@](#): > > Hunter Biden’s compensation for serving on the board was apparently routed through Rosemont Seneca Bohai LLC, a U.S. company set up by one of his business partners, Devon Archer, who also served as a Burisma director. Bank records from 2014 and 2015, disclosed in unrelated litigation, show the company receiving funds from Burisma and paying more than $850,000 to the younger Biden. He remained on the board until this year. > **[Trump–Ukraine scandal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Ukraine_controversy?fbclid=IwAR06QcblFFk_NjA_r1osQbmjXIR52XGGC3hNkakDH3_LADRYkC8xm6Lvr1A)** > > The Trump–Ukraine scandal was a U.S. political scandal that arose from the discovery of U.S. President Donald Trump's attempts to coerce Ukraine and other countries into providing damaging narratives about 2020 Democratic Party presidential candidate Joe Biden and giving misinformation relating to Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections. Trump enlisted surrogates within and outside his official administration, including his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Attorney Genera... The Background section of this article lays out a nice timeline and key players. Does anyone know where the claim that “Biden bragged about getting rid of the prosecuter” is coming from? It seems like there was a bit from a speech or something but I haven’t been able to find it. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/48 "2019-09-30T18:59:43Z")
> [@SmellMyWort](#): > > … > > Does anyone know where the claim that “Biden bragged about getting rid of the prosecuter” is coming from? It seems like there was a bit from a speech or something but I haven’t been able to find it. From my Biden thread: > **[Foreign Affairs Issue Launch with Former Vice President Joe Biden](https://www.cfr.org/event/foreign-affairs-issue-launch-former-vice-president-joe-biden)** > > Coauthors Joe Biden and Michael Carpenter discuss the article, “How to Stand Up to the Kremlin: Defending Democracy Against Its Enemies,” which appears in the January/February issue of Foreign Affair… > [@](#): > > …They made—I mean, I’ll give you one concrete example. I was—not I, but it just happened to be that was the assignment I got. I got all the good ones. And so I got Ukraine. And I remember going over, convincing our team, our leaders to—convincing that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t. > > So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/49 "2019-09-30T19:47:07Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > You weren’t discussing it so why not let it die? Why let people perpetuate the smear, as you’ve been doing with Ilhan Omar? There are two ways to operate in life: 1. Pick an answer. Decide that your answer is correct. Declare things that disagree with your answer to be false, lies, and only exist as personal attacks on you and the world. And, of course, declare anything which agrees with your answer to be further and inviolable proof of the answers correctness. 2. Have no opinion on things. If someone suggests that something might be true, you investigate that and use evidence that is discovered to determine if any of it contradicts the suggested idea. If the evidence contradicts the idea, then the idea is not true. If the evidence does not contradict the idea then it’s possibly true but there may be other ideas that would also explain the same evidence. But, minus alternative ideas that would also explain the evidence, the one idea is the leading idea and should be treated as truth until alternate hypotheses are raised. Between 1 and 2 is a spectrum of ways to operate, of course, but only pure adherence to 2 is a sane or useful way to operate. Joe Biden may become the next President of the United States. Our job as citizens is to determine whether he is a person that we trust to work for the entire populace of the country, preserve and execute the law of the land, and do the work of becoming informed on the subjects that will impact our country and make deliberative and rational decisions on the basis of that information. Someone has said that we could not trust him. Now we can either use ad hominem character attacks on the accuser - seeing that criminal accusations only ever come from impeachably good people of perfect character - or simply review the accusation and the merits of the accusation and let that go where it leads, regardless of any personal feelings on the matter. I vote that the latter is more useful to the country and is, expressly, the job of the electorate leading in to an election. In the case of Biden, in the basis of what I have seen and know, I lean towards him being innocent. But if better evidence comes in to show that he is probably guilty, then he is probably guilty. Personal feelings on the subject are irrelevant. He could have the perfect policy agenda for the nation but, if he’s a crook, then he should go to jail. And if anyone votes for him on his policy even though there be sufficient evidence of criminality, then they are failing in their duty as a citizen. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/50 "2019-09-30T20:15:13Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > 1. Have no opinion on things. If someone suggests that something might be true, you investigate that and use evidence that is discovered to determine if any of it contradicts the suggested idea. If the evidence contradicts the idea, then the idea is not true. If the evidence does not contradict the idea then it’s possibly true but there may be other ideas that would also explain the same evidence. But, minus alternative ideas that would also explain the evidence, the one idea is the leading idea and should be treated as truth until alternate hypotheses are raised. > > Between 1 and 2 is a spectrum of ways to operate, of course, but only pure adherence to 2 is a sane or useful way to operate. I propose that you don’t believe this. To demonstrate, allow me to suggest some things that might be true: Giuliani when he was twelve once ate fifteen muffins at one sitting. There is a duck in Central Park with a broken left wing. If you bundle five pounds of uncooked spaghetti together with twine and then boil it, the twine will break through the spaghetti, every time. George Stephanopoulos likes to use the treadmill while listening to Beyonce. Outside my house, there’s a red pickup truck. Is it “sane or useful”, now that “someone [me] suggests that something might be true,” to “investigate that and use evidence that is discovered to determine if any of it contradicts the suggested idea”? Hell no it’s not. You correctly realize that none of my claims are worth investigating, because I’m not making them in good faith: I’m just making them to waste your time. One way to stop a vampire is to scatter poppy seeds around the grave: the risen vampire will be unable to stop itself from counting the seeds and will be effectively trapped until sunrise. If you don’t have a filter that helps you recognize claims made in bad faith, you’re going to be just as trapped as that vampire. The Hunter Biden claims? Super bad faith. Don’t be a vampire. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/51 "2019-09-30T20:29:47Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Hell no it’s not. You correctly realize that none of my claims are worth investigating, because I’m not making them in good faith: I’m just making them to waste your time. Ergo, I also noted that Biden is running for President. But otherwise, yes, we only have so many hours in a day and would happily add a qualifier noting “pending the time and value in doing so”. But, I would also want to more strongly endorse the “having no opinion” part if we add that in to the description. If you haven’t done the investigation, you should have no opinion. I have no opinion about whether there is or is not a duck with a broken wing in your local park (or whatever the example was). ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/52 "2019-09-30T20:45:55Z")
I have no real opinion on the Biden matter, sure–because it’s not something I, or anyone outside of law enforcement, needs to have an opinion on at this point. There’s no credible claim being made on the subject. The only claims being made are being made in bad faith. And what your #2 method leaves out is evaluating which claims SHOULD be evaluated. It’s real important to be able to choose between claims worth looking into, and claims not worth looking into. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/53 "2019-09-30T20:56:52Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I have no real opinion on the Biden matter, sure–because it’s not something I, or anyone outside of law enforcement, needs to have an opinion on at this point. There’s no credible claim being made on the subject. The only claims being made are being made in bad faith. > > And what your #2 method leaves out is evaluating which claims SHOULD be evaluated. It’s real important to be able to choose between claims worth looking into, and claims not worth looking into. Minus looking, how are you supposed to identify? I advocate for timeboxing. You decide how long it’s worth and do that much honest investigation. But, deciding in advance that there’s “no there there” is always bad. Being honest about the limitations of a timeboxed view is bad. This thread allows people to surface any real evidence, if it can be done. For my personal level of timeboxing for the subject, I’m willing to take a brief look at their quotations but I largely leave it to others at this point. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/54 "2019-09-30T21:14:35Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Minus looking, how are you supposed to identify? > > I advocate for timeboxing. You decide how long it’s worth and do that much honest investigation. > > But, deciding in advance that there’s “no there there” is always bad. > > Being honest about the limitations of a timeboxed view is bad. > > This thread allows people to surface any real evidence, if it can be done. For my personal level of timeboxing for the subject, I’m willing to take a brief look at their quotations but I largely leave it to others at this point. Don’t you think the Hunter Biden claims have now been sufficiently debunked? They really have. If it were my thread, I’d probably say, “well, looks like it was all a conspiracy theory started up by that guy at The Hill. The timing doesn’t work and there’s zero evidence of any wrongdoing. I’m glad we looked into this, but this issue can be put to bed. Can a mod please close this thread at this point?” ---
**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/55 "2019-09-30T21:15:34Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Between 1 and 2 is a spectrum of ways to operate, of course, but only pure adherence to 2 is a sane or useful way to operate. Are you sure this isn’t a typo and you meant “insane”? We live in a world with finite resources, including our own time. Needing to personally investigate every crackpot theory before rendering an opinion on the matter is just going to be an exercise in pointless frustration. I don’t need to personally investigate your patent for a energy creation machine that violates the laws of thermodynamics, no. It’s not up to me to prove you are wrong, nor do I really care much to look at your evidence, or read your newsletter. I’m still about 99.99% confident that you are wrong, and I’m not going to waste my time on the minuscule chance you may have actually discovered something that completely upends physics while working in your garage. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/56 "2019-09-30T21:21:04Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Don’t you think the Hunter Biden claims have now been sufficiently debunked? They really have. If it were my thread, I’d probably say, "well, looks like it was all a conspiracy theory started up by that guy at The Hill. You might take a gander at the OP. ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/57 "2019-09-30T21:22:18Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > From my Biden thread: > > [Foreign Affairs Issue Launch with Former Vice President Joe Biden | Council on Foreign Relations](https://www.cfr.org/event/foreign-affairs-issue-launch-former-vice-president-joe-biden) Thanks for that. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/58 "2019-10-01T00:18:16Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > You might take a gander at the OP. I read every post in this thread, including the OP. You didn’t think there was any there there, and everyone basically agrees, so why not just ask to have it closed rather than allowing a place for someone to post that, hey, Hunter made money while serving on a board (the horrors!) so there’s obviously something dirty there. Whatever. It’s your thread, enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/59 "2019-10-01T01:17:11Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Don’t you think the Hunter Biden claims have now been sufficiently debunked? They really have. If it were my thread, I’d probably say, “well, looks like it was all a conspiracy theory started up by that guy at The Hill. The timing doesn’t work and there’s zero evidence of any wrongdoing. I’m glad we looked into this, but this issue can be put to bed. Can a mod please close this thread at this point?” Before it’s closed I’ll add that the Republicans ought to be trying like Hell to get Biden nominated, because Trump has the _best_ chance of winning against him. Next best is Bernie, because he has screaming, idiotic online followers you can mine for “This Is What Bernie Bros Actually Believe” segments, in order to paint the whole DNC as the Cult Of Bernie The Jew Socialist Who’s Gun-Grabbing And Jewish. ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/60 "2019-10-01T02:03:29Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > …I’ll add that the Republicans ought to be trying like Hell to get Biden nominated, because Trump has the _best_ chance of winning against him. Next best is Bernie, because he has screaming, idiotic online followers you can mine for “This Is What Bernie Bros Actually Believe” segments, in order to paint the whole DNC as the Cult Of Bernie The Jew Socialist Who’s Gun-Grabbing And Jewish. Tramp himself may feel most threatened by Ms Warren. But his grasp on reality is… quirky. Biden now, sure, but with a Warren poll bounce, she’ll get the full treatment. BTW I’m in the “Biden is too old for this shit” camp. Bidens are easy oppo targets because they’ve been around awhile. Anything can be linked to them, with or without basis. That’s how conspiracy theories are built. [ol] [li] Point to some stuff: people, places, things, events, whatever.[/li] (None of that ‘stuff’ need be actual. Invent-em as needed.) [li] Fantasize some connection between them. That fantasy is now fact.[/li][li] Point to other stuff. Fantasize more links. Now you have more facts.[/li][li] Any contradictions or critiques are obviously enemy disinfo.[/li][/ol] We shall soon learn about Biden family depravities, degeneracies, impurities, drug or sex etc addictions, ritual Satanic tattoos, cheating in kindergarten, bed-wetting, and Area 51 secrets. What? Hunter Biden is a Zeta Reticulan hybrid? Lord have mercy! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964.md?page=4)