# The Hunter Biden Investigation {thread started in 2019}, Hunter Pardoned on December 1, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 28, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964 "2019-09-28T19:54:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/723 "2023-12-08T14:47:40Z")
Oh, goody! A diversion from the GOP’s current disarray and inter-party chaos! Hey, look over there!! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/724 "2023-12-08T17:56:06Z")
If there is evidence, and he’s found guilty, and sentencing is within the norm, then I am not going to complain. You do the crime you pay. Of course, if Hunter gets anything less than being drawn and quartered in a public broadcast then the Republicans will claim they were too soft on him. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/725 "2023-12-08T19:16:03Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If there is evidence, and he’s found guilty, and sentencing is within the norm, then I am not going to complain. You do the crime you pay. The previous plea deal would be the norm. Any sort of real jail time would be out of the norm. It is interesting- when trump cheats on taxes and has an extravagant lifestyle, that’s a Good Thing. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/726 "2024-01-10T19:06:11Z")
Sorry for bumping this thread if it’s not the correct place to post this, but I heard on the radio today while out running errands over lunch that the House will be voting today on Contempt of Congress charges for Hunter Biden after he ignored a subpoena to appear before a closed door committee session. Biden said he would testify openly, but my understanding is that the GOP doesn’t want that since then they can’t twist his words to fit their agenda. My two questions are, what’s he facing with a contempt of Congress charge, and is it something pardonable by the President? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/727 "2024-01-10T19:16:20Z")
Worth noting that Hunter crashed the House GOP party today: > **[Hunter Biden makes surprise appearance at House committee hearing to hold him...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-republicans-vote-resolutions-hold-hunter-biden-contempt-congress-rcna133206)** > > The votes comes after House Republicans released a report recommending Hunter Biden be held in contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena to sit for a closed-door deposition and offering to testify publicly instead. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/728 "2024-01-10T19:18:45Z")
[Hunter Biden actually showed up today](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/10/us/politics/hunter-biden-capitol-hearing.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Mk0.7fiI.fxb5afX5qT43&smid=url-share) in the House Oversight Committee hearing room to demonstrate he is willing to testify publicly before the House. This is a gift link so no paywall. Several Democrats called out the GOP members to let him testify at that time, something he seemed will to do. Comer and the others of course refused since it doesn’t play in their game. Jared Moskowitz even offered to vote in favor of the contempt citation for Biden if the GOP members would hold Jordan, McCarthy, Biggs, etc in contempt for failing to respond to subpoenas to the J6 Committee. It was a thing of beauty. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/729 "2024-01-10T19:19:09Z")
Since I was double-ninjad posting a link, I’ll just leave my aside: I sometimes take one for the team and read the FOX comments, and it seems this event pierced the bubble. I mean, about 3/4 of people were critical of Hunter, and Democrats, and going on about “corruption”. But the other 1/4 were saying “He showed up, why not question him? Don’t we deserve to hear it”? Or words to that effect. Trust me, that’s a lot. This is exactly why public testimony is what Comer Simpson wants to avoid. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/730 "2024-01-10T19:22:35Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > The previous plea deal would be the norm. > > Any sort of real jail time would be out of the norm. I don’t think that was settled here with all of the conflicting data and cites. > [@Shoeless](#): > > is it something pardonable by the President? It is a Federal crime so I assume so. And honestly, if the contempt is because Biden wants the hearing to be public, not private (assuming no national security issues) then he should be pardoned. This country ain’t about no Star Chambers ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/731 "2024-01-10T19:22:51Z")
I saw some of the video. He really put the clown show into a lather, completely destroyed the “Hunter Biden is afraid to show his face around here” narrative. It was pretty amusing, especially when one of the Dems suggested they put it to a vote on just questioning him right then. What the hell, there he is! Lots of sputtering Pubbies. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/732 "2024-01-10T19:27:08Z")
You should also look for the clip of Swallwell calling out Gym Jordan to his face in a similar way in a Judiciary committee hearing that was happening at the same time. These MAGA guys are such buffoons. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/733 "2024-01-10T19:30:14Z")
Thanks for the tip. That was awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/734 "2024-01-10T19:45:57Z")
Here’s a link to a video of Moskowitz - [link](https://x.com/acyn/status/1745106788012171706?s=46&t=Liz2xnZiexCqMxeMVGfUAw) Still looking for Swallwell. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/735 "2024-01-10T20:00:43Z")
> **[‘Is This a Joke?!’ Eric Swalwell Asks Jim Jordan ‘How Dumb’ He Thinks...](https://www.mediaite.com/politics/is-this-a-joke-eric-swalwell-asks-jim-jordan-how-dumb-he-thinks-american-people-are-about-subpoena-compliance/)** > > Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) didn't mince words when it came to the House GOP's move to hold Hunter Biden in contempt of Congress. Is this a joke? 🤣 That…was…awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/736 "2024-01-10T20:30:43Z")
Well, getting threatened by Roger Stone, the Ratfucker General, will piss people off. [https://www.mediaite.com/politics/exclusive-roger-stone-spoke-with-cop-pal-about-assassinating-eric-swalwell-and-jerry-nadler/](https://www.mediaite.com/politics/exclusive-roger-stone-spoke-with-cop-pal-about-assassinating-eric-swalwell-and-jerry-nadler/) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/737 "2024-01-10T20:34:27Z")
Nancy Mace, being unable to deviate from her set speech, shows what an intellectually _dumb_ crew the current GOP house is. Absolutely amazing to watch her accuse HB of not appearing before Congress while HB is sitting there, in Congress. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/738 "2024-01-10T20:46:50Z")
Yeah, his sitting in the front row really took the wind out of their sails. Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/739 "2024-01-10T21:02:51Z")
The coup de grâce was Hunter and his crew getting up and leaving just as MTG was granted time to speak. It reminded me of the Black Knight scene in _The Holy Grail_. “Oh running away, you coward!” ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/740 "2024-01-10T21:10:13Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Nancy Mace, being unable to deviate from her set speech, shows what an intellectually _dumb_ crew the current GOP house is. Absolutely amazing to watch her accuse HB of not appearing before Congress while HB is sitting there, in Congress. Given that the accusation is that he’s afraid to sit for questioning - not that he’s afraid of the physical building - I’m not really seeing it. I’m afraid of someone pointing a gun at me. I’m not afraid of someone shooting a gun, down-range, at a target. Showing up at a gun range doesn’t say anything about my willingness to engage in a pistols-at-dawn style duel. Hunter’s willingness to blow raspberries at Congress from behind a barrier doesn’t say anything positive about his willingness to simply answer questions from Congress - stupid as those questions might be - factually. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/741 "2024-01-10T21:11:18Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I’m afraid of someone pointing a gun at me. I’m not afraid of someone shooting a gun, down-range, at a target. Showing up at a gun range doesn’t say anything about my willingness to engage in a pistols-at-dawn style duel. What on earth? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/742 "2024-01-10T21:13:27Z")
If you’re accused of being afraid of something then doing something tangentially related to that thing which has no actual risk that you’re going to need to do the thing that you’re afraid of, doesn’t push back on the accusation that you’re a fraidy-cat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964.md?page=36) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964.md?page=38)