# The Hunter Biden Investigation {thread started in 2019}, Hunter Pardoned on December 1, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 28, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964 "2019-09-28T19:54:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/803 "2024-01-11T01:49:20Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > wouldn’t allow a hearing to be turned into a spectacle, Heaven forbid that a congressional committee hearing be turned into a public spectacle. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/804 "2024-01-11T01:50:33Z")
You’re moving the goalposts. You said it was an unreasonable demand. Now you’re saying it’s reasonable. Because it is - it’s reasonable for him to want to testify publicly. Because this is all about politics, and has nothing to do with facts. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/805 "2024-01-11T01:51:39Z")
None of this is relevant, since it’s crystal clear this committee is entirely about politics and dishonest manipulation, and not at all about actual facts. That’s why Hunter’s request to testify publicly is reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/806 "2024-01-11T01:53:06Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You’re moving the goalposts. You said it was an unreasonable demand. I’m clearly not agreeing with @Sage_Rat but I do think there’s a difference between wanting something and demanding something. SR is saying it’s acceptable to _want_ it, but not to demand it. Again, I disagree, but I don’t think SR is being contradictory or making a change in stance. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/807 "2024-01-11T01:56:23Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The committee would be foolish to make an exception and change the rules for Hunter Biden. Exactly. They should expect Biden to show the same respect for subpoena compliance that GOP congresspeople do. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/808 "2024-01-11T01:58:32Z")
Then any demand is unreasonable. He could demand a glass of water and it would be unreasonable, it appears. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/809 "2024-01-11T01:59:08Z")
I’m sorry, but that’s just crazy. YOU think it’s all about politics, but people who are called to testify don’t get to decide that the committee is ‘just politics’ and ignore their demands. That’s ‘Sovereign Citizen’ level nonsense. Hunter has been cited for contempt. The House will vote on it next week, and if they vote in the affirmative he’s in more trouble for these stunts he’s pulling. You may think today’s stunt was fun, and ‘showed them’, or something but my guess is that of the House votes to convict, today’s contempt will figure into whtever sentence he gets. And today’s actions are more likely to cause the House to vote to convict. Whether they actually will is an open question. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/810 "2024-01-11T02:01:01Z")
I never said Hunter was right to defy the bullshit subpoena. The courts will decide that. I said that the committee is a lying, worthless stunt, and that’s why your comparison was irrelevant, and why it’s entirely reasonable for Hunter to want his testimony public. Your post made the assumption that the Republican committee is acting in good faith, when it’s very obviously not. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/811 "2024-01-11T02:01:50Z")
Just curious. Does Hunter Biden really have a child he ignores? Or is that some conspiracy? I heard about it from an unreliable source. He was complaining Biden didn’t have an Xman stocking up for the kid. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/812 "2024-01-11T02:02:53Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > YOU think it’s all about politics, but people who are called to testify don’t get to decide that the committee is ‘just politics’ and ignore their demands. Unless you’re a GOP congressman though, right? Seriously, this reverence for rules and protocols is fucking laughable. This is a real life, politically motivated hatchet job. Biden’s reaction is smart and appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/813 "2024-01-11T02:03:32Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Heaven forbid that a congressional committee hearing be turned into a public spectacle. Which is why they are private. Do you remember a public spectacle the 5 times or more a Trump relative had to testify before a closed committee? If Hunter gets a public hearing of COURSE it will be a spectacle. Which is what he wants, and should not get. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/814 "2024-01-11T02:04:24Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > Unless you’re a GOP congressman though, right? Seriously, this reverence for rules and protocols is fucking laughable. This is a real life, politically motivated hatchet job. Biden’s reaction is smart and appropriate. Nope. Jordan should have paid a price. The Republicans are paying one now for setting a bad precedent. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/815 "2024-01-11T02:04:25Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > If Hunter gets a public hearing of COURSE it will be a spectacle. Which is what he wants, and should not get. I’m sure he would like nothing more than to be left alone. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/816 "2024-01-11T02:06:06Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > He could demand a glass of water and it would be unreasonable, it appears. By that reasoning sure. One reason why I disagree. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/817 "2024-01-11T02:06:11Z")
The Republicans want spectacle, and the committee does spectacle every time they meet publicly. This is not a serious effort to find facts, it’s an effort to damage political opponents. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/818 "2024-01-11T02:07:42Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Just curious. Does Hunter Biden really have a child he ignores? Or is that some conspiracy? I heard about it from an unreliable source. He was complaining Biden didn’t have an Xman stocking up for the kid. He has a child with a stripper that the entire Biden family tried to ignore. Hunter refused to acknowledge the kid was his until a paternity test was done, then refused to pay child support until a court foced him to. This while blowing hundreds of thousands to millions on hookers and blow. In case it wasn’t clear yet, Hunter Biden is a grade-A scumbag. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/819 "2024-01-11T02:08:02Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Nope. Jordan should have paid a price. The Republicans are paying one now for setting a bad precedent. Yes! They have zero moral authority to demand anything. Biden is handling it to his advantage, exactly as Jordan did. “But Biden doesn’t make the rules.” Puh-leez! Rules have weight when they apply to everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/820 "2024-01-11T02:11:56Z")
Congress is within their legal rights to issue a subpoena and hold Hunter in contempt for not complying if the vote goes that way. Legally I have no problem with that, it’s the law. Politically I think it backfired because it exposed their agenda. If he’s willing to testify openly, to the extent that he literally shows up and says “question me”, and they refuse to do so, it shows that this isn’t a serious investigation. If they really want to ask relevant questions related to his crimes they would do it publicly. Morally for someone who ignores a subpoena to hold someone else in contempt for doing the same thing, they’re a hypocrite. I think these stunts (and that’s all they are) will do more to hurt the Republicans than they will hurt Joe Biden (which is the entire reason for them). ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/821 "2024-01-11T02:12:31Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > In case it wasn’t clear yet, Hunter Biden is a grade-A scumbag. Perhaps, but that’s not what this is about. I just didn’t want to start a new thread just to ask. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/822 "2024-01-11T02:13:09Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > In case it wasn’t clear yet, Hunter Biden is a grade-A scumbag. I also don’t really object to this characterization either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964.md?page=42)