# The Hunter Biden Investigation {thread started in 2019}, Hunter Pardoned on December 1, 2024
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 28, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964 "2019-09-28T19:54:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 51
### Author:  [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1003 "2024-01-14T20:31:56Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> It’s been repeatedly pointed out. The fight against ignorance continues unabated.
Don’t be too sure. I think ignorance is fighting back.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1004 "2024-01-14T21:48:48Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> On one of those clips, I heard someone assert that the motion (to question him then and there) was “out of order.”
I really wish someone had gone full Al Pacino at that point:
“_You’re_ out of order! _You’re_ out of order! The _whole trial_ is out of order! _They’re_ out of order!”
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### Author:  [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1005 "2024-01-16T23:26:43Z")
Here’s the latest - I guess after Comer and Jordan getting pwned last week they’re ready to negotiate:
> **[Republicans pause effort to hold Hunter Biden in contempt, say they are...](https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-congress-contempt-subpoena-c40ee502ad85fdfa6a11ec17683c294a)**
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> House Republicans are halting plans to hold Hunter Biden in contempt of Congress this week for defying a congressional subpoena.
_…attorney Abbe Lowell wrote to House Republicans Friday that his client’s cooperation is dependent on the committee issuing a new subpoena. They maintained that the two subpoenas sent in November were not legitimate because they were issued before the full House authorized the impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden._
_Hunter Biden’s legal team cited a 2020 legal opinion issued by then-Attorney General William Barr, which stated that a subpoena issued through an impeachment inquiry not yet approved by the full chamber has “no compulsory effect.”_
Woops. Me likey. 🤣
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### Author:  [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1006 "2024-01-17T01:03:25Z")
Lowell also quoted several instances of Jim Jordan saying that such a subpoena was not valid.
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1007 "2024-01-17T01:12:39Z")
> **[Republicans pause effort to hold Hunter Biden in contempt, say they are...](https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-congress-contempt-subpoena-c40ee502ad85fdfa6a11ec17683c294a)**
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> House Republicans are halting plans to hold Hunter Biden in contempt of Congress this week for defying a congressional subpoena.
But we were assured that the Republicans were debating whether to have Hunter arrested on the spot not whether they were even going to hold him in contempt for defying a the subpoena?
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### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1008 "2024-01-17T22:46:59Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> “Seem”? What is it with you? He wasn’t invited or summoned or any such thing.
I’ve been posting to the Straight Dope for two decades. There is no such thing as a conclusive statement outside of mathematics.
If you want to hunt down some sort of authoritative cite that no one person, neither Republican nor Democrat, invited Hunter to visit then by all means post it and I’ll swap my description to match the evidence. “Current evidence shows that he was not invited.” For the moment, “seem” is the more technically accurate phrasing.
Personally, I’m not seeing that it’s a matter of any large significance, either way but you’re free to clarify it and I’ll read what you find.
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> > [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> > The Republicans seem to have been in a debate about whether to have Hunter arrested on the spot, when Hunter and his attorney left.
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> No. This didn’t happen and at no point did it seem like this was happening.
[Transcript](https://www.c-span.org/video/?532775-1/oversight-committee-debates-resolution-hold-hunter-biden-contempt-congress-part-1):
> I THINK HUNTER BIDEN SHOULD BE ARRESTED RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW AND GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL. OUR NATION IS FOUNDED ON THE RULES OF LAW. WITH THE PREMISE THE LAW APPLIES EQUALLY TO EVERYONE NO MATTER WHAT.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1009 "2024-01-17T22:55:34Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> > I THINK HUNTER BIDEN SHOULD BE ARRESTED RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW AND GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL. OUR NATION IS FOUNDED ON THE RULES OF LAW. WITH THE PREMISE THE LAW APPLIES EQUALLY TO EVERYONE NO MATTER WHAT.
One statement is a debate now?
By the way, the person who said that also said “Hunter Biden [is] too afraid to show up” with him present.
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### Author:  [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1010 "2024-01-17T22:57:00Z")
One comment uttered by one person, in no way, shape, or form, looks like the Republicans were having a debate.
Nancy Mace made one hyperbolic remark and that was that.
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1011 "2024-01-17T23:13:47Z")
Nice that the quote wasn’t even credited. Thanks for informing me about who said it.
(Oh yeah, I could have simply clicked some blind link. Ha ha.)
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### Author:  [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2024, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1012 "2024-01-17T23:44:31Z")
Rep Mace actually does bring it up a second time, but it is crystal clear that she is making the case that Hunter Biden should be held in contempt, and not actually advocating that he be arrested on the spot.
Here’s a cut and paste of that part of the (computer generated) transcript which is less than ideally formatted.
> WITH OUR FOREIGN ADVERSARIES BUT HUNTER BIDEN YOU ARE TOO AFRAID TO SHOW UP FOR A DEPOSITION? AND YOU STILL CAN’T TODAY. **I BELIEVE HUNTER BIDEN SHOULD BE HELD COMPLETELY IN CONTEMPT I THINK HE SHOULD BE HAULED OFF TO JAIL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT WAS NOT LONG AGO TO MY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE, THAT YOU ALSO BELIEVED IN THE POWER OF A CONGRESSIONAL SUBPOENA.** NOT LONG AGO AT ALL YOU BELIEVED IN HOLDING THOSE WHO REFUSE TO COMPLY WITH A CONGRESSIONAL SUBPOENA ACCOUNTABLE. AND I STOOD WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. I’M THE ONLY MEMBER IN THIS ROOM TODAY HE WAS HELD A MEMBER OF MY OWN PARTY IN CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS FOR NOT SHOWING UP FOR A SUBPOENA. AND I SEE NOTHING BUT COMPLETE HYPOCRISY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EYE UP WITH THE RANKING MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE EVEN SO ELOQUENTLY PUT IT, THE LESSON IS PLEASE TELL YOUR CHILDREN OUT THERE IN AMERICA IF YOU GET A SUBPOENA TO GO BEFORE CONGRESS, IT GO. YOU HAVE A LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY TO DO SO. SO THE HYPOCRISY IS WHAT ARE WE TO TELL HER CHILDREN TODAY? THERE IS NOTHING THE OTHER SIDE CAN SAY WITH A STRAIGHT FACE. THE OLD MAYOR OF THIS COMMITTEE TO VOTE TO HOLD A MEMBER IN CONTEMPT OF MY OWN PARTY LET ME BE CLEAR THIS SHOULD NOT BE A PARTISAN ISSUE. IF CONGRESS ISSUES A SUBPOENA YOU SHOW UP. THIS IS NOT A RESPONSIBILITY WE TAKE LIGHTLY BRING SOME JOY TO DO THIS THE PRESIDENTS ON BROKE THE LAW AND MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IN THE SAME WAY ANYBODY ELSE WOULD BUT I URGE MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO DO SO AND MIGHT LAST MY LAST MESSAGE YOU HUNTER BIDEN, YOU PLAY STUPID GAMES YOU WIN STUPID PRICES.
Several people speak after that and no one even obliquely references Biden’s immediate arrest. He leaves about six minutes latter when Margie Dick Pics is given the floor.
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1013 "2024-01-18T12:58:06Z")
Mace is also the one, I believe, who claimed on the House floor that Hunter Biden had no balls. Maybe that’s why the dick pics were shown.
Republicans. Clowns.
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### Author:  [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1014 "2024-01-18T15:13:48Z")
> [@bobot](#):
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> Mace is also the one, I believe, who claimed on the House floor that Hunter Biden had no balls. Maybe that’s why the dick pics were shown.
The search for truth marches forward.
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### Author:  [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1015 "2024-01-19T14:29:13Z")
Hunter has agreed to a closed-door desposition with the committee members.
> **[Hunter Biden agrees to deposition with lawmakers after resisting subpoena in...](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hunter-biden-agrees-deposition-lawmakers-after-resisting-subpoena/story?id=106496972)**
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> Hunter Biden will sit for a deposition with the House Oversight and Judiciary committees on Feb. 28, the committees said in a statement on Thursday
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1016 "2024-01-19T14:41:41Z")
Isn’t the subpoena invalid? And why behind closed doors?
Questions, questions.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1017 "2024-01-19T15:49:12Z")
Huh. No matter what happens in these closed sessions, Hunter B should come right out and say “The committee found I was totally innocent, and begged for my forgiveness.”
Let them deny it.
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### Author:  [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1018 "2024-01-19T15:57:04Z")
“It was the best deposition, ever. Nobody in the history of the world has ever given a better deposition.”
Republicans seem to lap that stuff up.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1019 "2024-01-19T15:58:57Z")
“When I was giving my deposition, big strong men with tears in their eyes came up to me and said “Sir, that was the best deposition anyone has given.” And then they all had ice cream and I got two scoops.”
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### Author:  [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1020 "2024-01-19T15:59:06Z")
You joke, but the law be damned, if I were him, I’d secretly record the whole thing, and then release it in its entirety as soon as they start lying about it. Almost certainly illegal, but I’d be willing to roll the dice on jail time in such a case.
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### Author:  [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1021 "2024-01-19T16:35:10Z")
I think that would be brilliant. Release it to the NYT. Who can tell who recorded it?
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### Author:  [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1022 "2024-01-19T16:36:55Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> Who can tell who recorded it?
You know what would be really hilarious? If _everyone_ was secretly recording it, and they _all_ leaked it.
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