# The Hunter Biden Investigation {thread started in 2019}, Hunter Pardoned on December 1, 2024
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 28, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964 "2019-09-28T19:54:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2024, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1043 "2024-01-29T14:31:19Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Sounds like the House GOP should be preparing their next “We got him now!!” Release momentarily:
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1044 "2024-02-15T22:24:01Z")
Oh, SNAP!
> **[Special counsel charges FBI informant with lying to the bureau about Hunter...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/special-counsel-charges-fbi-informant-lying-bureau-hunter-joe-biden-rcna139091)**
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> Alexander Smirnov, 43, disliked President Joe Biden, according to the Justice Department. He was arrested in Las Vegas after returning from a trip overseas.
Seriously, the writers are getting sloppy. “Smirnov?”
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1045 "2024-02-15T22:34:21Z")
In Soviet America, Special Counsel charge YOU!
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### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1046 "2024-02-15T22:36:35Z")
I’ll just note that Weiss was appointed by Bill Barr and, formerly, prosecuted a guy who was using illegal means to fundraise for the Biden campaign.
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1047 "2024-02-15T22:56:06Z")
Hunter Biden is gonna get it! Any day, now!
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### Author:  [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1048 "2024-02-16T01:15:20Z")
For those who want a more in-depth report on this (not at all stunning and entirely predictable) development, here’s a gift link from the NYT:
> **[Ex-F.B.I. Informant Is Charged With Lying Over Bidens’ Role in Ukraine Business](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/15/us/politics/fbi-informant-bidens-ukraine.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.Pnep.UiEWQyz8eme_&smid=url-share)**
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> The informant’s story was part of a series of explosive and unsubstantiated claims by Republicans that the Bidens engaged in potentially criminal activity.
From the article:
> Mr. Smirnov’s motivation for lying, prosecutors wrote, appears to have been political. During the 2020 campaign, he sent his F.B.I. handler “a series of messages expressing bias” against Joseph R. Biden Jr., including texts, replete with typos and misspellings, boasting that he had information that would put him in jail.
I guess the only thing that shocks me is that Trump-appointed special counsel David Weiss brought the charges.
Pffffttttt goes the “Biden Crime Family” meme.
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### Author:  [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1049 "2024-02-16T02:00:11Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> prosecuted a guy who was using illegal means to fundraise for the Biden campaign.
……isn’t that something he should have been doing?
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### Author:  [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1050 "2024-02-16T03:08:47Z")
Agreed. And the pathetic Comer reaction from the article you shared is basically “This is the FBI’s fault for not telling us this guy was a liar” wah wah wah. Dumb shit Republicans.
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### Author:  [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1051 "2024-02-16T03:18:13Z")
_Everyone_ has been telling them it’s bullshit for the past several years. They didn’t need the FBI for that.
Anyone who took the time to parse the timeline and context for what was being asserted could instantly reason that the whole story was garbage and the guy was a liar.
Beyond pathetic.
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### Author:  [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1052 "2024-02-16T03:25:03Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I guess the only thing that shocks me is that Trump-appointed special counsel David Weiss brought the charges.
I think his hand was forced a bit by discovery in the Hunter Biden prosecution.
> **[231115 Discovery Supplement](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24215744-231115-discovery-supplement)**
The 1023 at the bottom of this has a lot of fingerprints (metaphorically) on it, including Bill Barr, Rudy Giuliani, and even David Weiss.
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### Author:  [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1053 "2024-02-16T03:30:35Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> The 1023 at the bottom
I skimmed the document to find some 1023 thingy and couldn’t. Some help with what you’re referring to please? Thank you.
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### Author:  [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1054 "2024-02-16T03:31:04Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> I think his hand was forced a bit by discovery in the Hunter Biden prosecution.
Wow, awesome catch! I should say it was definitely forced a bit! That letter is pretty damning. Thanks for sharing it.
When I think of how the Biden family has been made to suffer over all this garbage, it makes my blood boil.
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### Author:  [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1055 "2024-02-16T03:45:43Z")
But does any of this negate the existence of his laptop which had some dick picks and maybe a picture of him smoking something that might’ve been crack?
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### Author:  [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1056 "2024-02-16T03:48:25Z")
> [@squeegee](#):
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> I skimmed the document to find some 1023 thingy and couldn’t.
I meant the bottom of the whole Hunter Biden mess not at the bottom of the page I linked to.
> **[Grand Jury Returns Indictment Charging FBI Confidential Human Source with...](https://www.justice.gov/sco-weiss/pr/grand-jury-returns-indictment-charging-fbi-confidential-human-source-felony-false)**
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> Today, a federal court unsealed a two-count indictment returned by a federal grand jury in the Central District of California charging Alexander Smirnov, 43, with making a false statement, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001, and creating a...
> Today, a federal court unsealed a two-count indictment returned by a federal grand jury in the Central District of California charging Alexander Smirnov, 43, with making a false statement, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001, and creating a false and fictitious record, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1519, for statements he made that were recorded in an official record of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) **known as a Form 1023**.
This 1023. ☝
Same 1023 Grassley revealed last summer.
[https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/20/politics/chuck-grassley-fbi-document/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/20/politics/chuck-grassley-fbi-document/index.html)
Same 1023 that Scott Brady testified about last October.
[https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/politics/us-attorney-biden-bribery-tip-scrutiny/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/politics/us-attorney-biden-bribery-tip-scrutiny/index.html)
It’s the same document that pretty much everyone knew was bullshit in 2020, but has since been used as an excuse to go after the Bidens.
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### Author:  [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1057 "2024-02-16T04:14:07Z")
Pathetically pathetic if that is an actual thing. But Comer, like all MAGAts, can’t accept responsibility for their own stupidity so gotta find someone to blame.
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### Author:  [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1058 "2024-02-16T08:01:23Z")
According to one article I came across, Comer says that they’re not basing their findings on the 1023 since they have mounds and mounds of ~~delicious coleslaw~~ other evidence that prove beyond the shadow of a doubt and with geometric logic that the Biden family is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1059 "2024-02-16T15:08:12Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> since they have mounds and mounds of ~~delicious coleslaw~~ other evidence that prove beyond the shadow of a doubt and with geometric logic that the Biden family is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.
It’s in the packets, right? I’ve heard the magic evidence is always in the packets.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1060 "2024-02-16T15:46:25Z")
They can’t share the mounds of delicious evidence yet because… because… well they just can’t yet.
Two. Weeks.
Really, you’ve got to trust Rudy Giuliani to protect the chain of evidence. When you think of Rudy, what words come to mind? Honesty. Sober. Stable.
And a Russian agent named Smirnov? Very unlikely that he wants to create lies to damage Biden in any way and compromise the United States support of Ukraine. Right? That’s just too hard to fathom. Russia is our good friend! Just ask the Republicans!
Edit: LAPTOP! LAPTOP! HUNTER HAD A LAPTOP! THIS MEANS HE IS GUILTY!
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### Author:  [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1061 "2024-02-16T17:00:08Z")
Problem is, [the packets keep hitting pockets](http://www.skywriting.net/inspirational/humor/seuss_computer_poem.html).
I could have refrained. I chose not to.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1062 "2024-02-16T17:50:31Z")
Should Hannity be investigated, as it is now clear that he was simply acting as a mouthpiece for a Russian spy’s obvious lies? Are there no repercussions for someone who aids a foreign government who is trying to harm the country by spreading falsehoods?
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