# The Hunter Biden Investigation {thread started in 2019}, Hunter Pardoned on December 1, 2024
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 28, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964 "2019-09-28T19:54:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 54
### Author:  [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1063 "2024-02-16T18:13:09Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Edit: LAPTOP! LAPTOP! HUNTER HAD A LAPTOP! THIS MEANS HE IS GUILTY!
Right. I don’t know why people keep asking for evidence. The maga mob asked _what about the laptop?!_, and it turns out that Hunter \*did\* own a laptop. Case closed I say.
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1064 "2024-02-16T18:14:54Z")
I’d bet money that laptop is running Windows and yet, somehow, no one is talking about Bill Gates’ role in all of this crime.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1065 "2024-02-16T18:48:22Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Are there no repercussions for someone who aids a foreign government who is trying to harm the country by spreading falsehoods?
Only if you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he **knowingly** did so.
He might be protected by the fact that he got this info from a proven liar who fooled others for years too.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1066 "2024-02-16T18:58:59Z")
> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Only if you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he **knowingly** did so.
I guess the defense of “I’m just a credulous idiot, who parroted Russian disinformation to damage the country.” is what he’s going to go with.
It worked for Tucker Carlson - he argued that no reasonable person would be expected to believe the utter lies coming out of his mouth, so he’s not liable for the damage he causes.
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### Author:  [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1067 "2024-02-16T23:39:51Z")
I think it was a Macbook Pro, while it could be running Windows, I doubt it was. Let’s just blame Steve Jobs (RIP) here.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1068 "2024-02-21T02:21:13Z")
So indeed, this whole Hunter Biden bullshit was simply a Russian disinformation scheme from the get-go.
And I really hope that those parties who helped promote this foreign interference feel ashamed now, and will come forward to apologize.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha! I’m here all week folks. Try the veal.
[https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/20/politics/biden-former-fbi-informant-russian-intelligence/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/20/politics/biden-former-fbi-informant-russian-intelligence/index.html)
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### Author:  [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1069 "2024-02-21T02:21:18Z")
Ah so Steve clearly knew too much and the Bidens Vince Fostered him.
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1070 "2024-02-21T02:29:53Z")
“Cocaine”
[ ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/53542267216/)
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2024, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1071 "2024-02-21T04:02:06Z")
Looks a lot like sawdust.
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### Author:  [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2024, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1072 "2024-02-21T04:48:09Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> So indeed, this whole Hunter Biden bullshit was simply a Russian disinformation scheme from the get-go.
I hope so but the news stories tonight do not go that far.
Here is the document today’s news is based on:
> **[gov.uscourts.nvd.167064.15.0.pdf](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.167064/gov.uscourts.nvd.167064.15.0.pdf)**
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If claims in the above link are true, Alexander Smirnov is a double-agent. I’m not sure why press reports aren’t using that phrase, unless it is just because, on our side, he was working for the FBI rather than the CIA.
It is a strange situation that reflects poorly on the FBI. The link suggests that Smirnov will be, if released on bail — as he has been — brought out of the United States, to escape prosecution, by the government of Israel. If this sounded implausible to the judge, well, it also sounds implausible to me. It would cause an enormous outpouring of anti-Israel outrage, in the United States, at a time when Israel can least afford it.
If any country rescues Smirnov from U.S. prosecution, I think it will be Russia.
I think it extraordinary that an alleged double-agent isn’t being held awaiting trial.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2024, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1073 "2024-02-21T15:29:20Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Looks a lot like sawdust.
Looks a lot like the Monster Energy logo in sawdust. 🙂
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### Author:  [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1074 "2024-02-21T18:13:31Z")
Maybe Hunter was/is a woodworker. I hate to think how much of that stuff went up _my_ nose.
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### Author:  [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1075 "2024-02-21T18:51:08Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Looks a lot like sawdust.
I think the tablesaw in the background is a clue.
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### Author:  [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1076 "2024-02-22T01:30:36Z")
You’d think Republicans would be infuriated, or at least have the sense to be embarrassed, that they’d been duped by the Russians. Instead they’re acting like it doesn’t matters. American first? Yeah, but only after we look after Putin’s interests first.
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### Author:  [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1077 "2024-02-22T15:19:32Z")
They know Putin and Russia are helping them. They also know they can’t win without that help. It’s no longer left vs right, it’s America vs. Russia and the GOP. They’ve given up on western democracy because it can no longer give them power, so they are all in with autocratic authoritarian dictatorships now.
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### Author:  [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1078 "2024-02-24T01:08:40Z")
They don’t need help from Russia.
[https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4482705-republican-colleagues-warned-informants-biden-claims-not-be-corroborated/](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4482705-republican-colleagues-warned-informants-biden-claims-not-be-corroborated/)
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### Author:  [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1079 "2024-02-25T22:07:09Z")
> If members of Congress (Comer, Jordan, Grassley) now continue to peddle knowing lies that are a product of Russian propaganda and disinformation, they should be criminally investigated for being part and parcel of a conspiracy to defraud the United States and to interfere in our elections.
[https://www.rawstory.com/smirnov-scandal-experts-all-for-investigations-warn-gop-of-possible-conspiracy-charges/](https://www.rawstory.com/smirnov-scandal-experts-all-for-investigations-warn-gop-of-possible-conspiracy-charges/)
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### Author:  [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)
#### Post date: [February 25, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1080 "2024-02-25T22:33:48Z")
Wow that really needs to gain traction. Shmeernov - (and I’m not sure, exactly, to what degree) Jim, Gym and Chuckles - _have_ to be taken to task for this.
I’m inclined to believe they knew all along they were peddling Russian disinformation, and I hope their phone/email records can eventually be searched to either corroborate or (ha, unlikely!) dispute that.
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### Author:  [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1081 "2024-02-26T01:36:36Z")
In Russia we tell lies about American President so dumb congressmen get put in gulag.
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### Author:  [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2024, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1082 "2024-02-26T09:05:55Z")
> [@dougrb in the Hill article](#):
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> Jordan on Wednesday said it “doesn’t change the fundamental facts” of the Republican case against the president.
He’s not wrong.
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