# The Hunter Biden Investigation {thread started in 2019}, Hunter Pardoned on December 1, 2024
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 28, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964 "2019-09-28T19:54:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1404 "2024-06-11T15:50:29Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Former Trump attorney, Tim Parlatore, just did the sentencing math. He says the guidelines point to a sentence of 0 to 6 months.
That seems about right. Not great for Hunter, but seems to fit the crime.
Did anyone ever explain why he wanted a gun in the first place?
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### Author:  [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1405 "2024-06-11T15:51:36Z")
reporting is that hunter will have a written responce to the verdict. he has left the courthouse.
the judge did not set a sentencing date, it should be in about 4 months.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1406 "2024-06-11T15:53:48Z")
Law enforcement can now show that this was not selective prosecution by going after _every single person_ who checked “no” on that form, but had used drugs at some point. As the prosecution pointed out, they don’t have to prove anyone used drugs on the day they checked “no”. They don’t even have to prove they used drugs in the MONTH before they checked “no”.
So it’s now open season on anyone who had ever used illegal drugs and checked “no” on that form. And marijuana is federally an illegal drug.
Police resources should be dedicated to tracking down the millions of lawbreakers. After all, they went all out here, finding the dumpster diver, reviewing tapes etc. Heck, some murders don’t get this much investigative power.
So… have at it, law enforcement! There are MILLIONS of criminals out there just waiting to be caught.
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### Author:  [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1407 "2024-06-11T16:01:04Z")
But he’s got a Secret Service detail! Doesn’t that mean they can’t possibly put him in jail? Or that it would be -gasp- problematic?
Note that Joe Biden isn’t putting out unhinged posts on social media and isn’t calling for threats to the jurors or judge. I do hope he gives a pardon on Jan 7 of next year.
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### Author:  [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1408 "2024-06-11T16:03:55Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I do hope he gives a pardon on Jan 7 of next year.
Technically, he could _commute_ his son’s sentence without violating his assertion that he wouldn’t grant him a _pardon_ 😉
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### Author:  [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1409 "2024-06-11T16:13:43Z")
As long as he waits until after the election…
No opinion on the legal merits, and while it’s hard to argue that a conviction for his son helps Biden electorally, it does provide the opportunity to present a very clear and distinct contrast to Trump’s response to his conviction and other legal trials: “I respect the courts and rule of law, even when it resulted in the conviction of my son, whom I love very much. My opponent has no respect at all for the rule of law. He stands for a lawless, cronyist, and corrupt rule based on the whims and moods of an unstable criminal.”
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### Author:  [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1410 "2024-06-11T16:20:44Z")
On the one hand I kind of wanted a not guilty just to stick it to the jerks who drove this idiocy.
On the other hand, FHB. You’re a screwup who used your dad’s good name to enrich yourself, do drugs, and just generally be a worthless drain on society. Then you decide to buy a gun. You struggle for years with addiction, don’t actually have your affairs in order at all, and a GUN is the thing you need?
Oh, and thanks for forgetting to pickup your computer, dipshit. Maybe you’ll get to enjoy some time in prison and learn how to not be an idiot.
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### Author:  [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1411 "2024-06-11T16:22:18Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> “I respect the courts and rule of law, even when it resulted in the conviction of my son, whom I love very much. My opponent has no respect at all for the rule of law. He stands for a lawless, cronyist, and corrupt rule based on the whims and moods of an unstable criminal.”
Did Joe Biden actually say that? If not, I agree with the sentiment, and he should say it.
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### Author:  [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1412 "2024-06-11T16:23:04Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> As long as he waits until after the election…
There always is another election down the road. Bill Clinton pardoning Marc Rich, on his last day in office, is still probably hurting the Democratic Party brand a tiny bit.
While I am generally for more grants of clemency, they should come to the President as a recommendation from the Office of the Pardon Attorney, and not be politically timed.
And other people got away with the same misdeed, if that is the idea, is a terrible reason to grant clemency.
Democrats should be showing that we respect jury verdicts as you know who does not.
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### Author:  [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1413 "2024-06-11T16:24:57Z")
It’s my attempt at armchair political strategizing.
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### Author:  [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1414 "2024-06-11T16:27:22Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> …and just generally be a worthless drain on society. Then you decide to buy a gun. You struggle for years with addiction, don’t actually have your affairs in order at all, and a GUN is the thing you need?
Hey, this is AMERICA! Don’t mess with our freedoms!
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1415 "2024-06-11T16:29:34Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> Did Joe Biden actually say that?
No, but today, he did say this:
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> “As I said last week, I am the President, but I am also a Dad. Jill and I love our son, and we are so proud of the man he is today,” the president said. “So many families who have had loved ones battle addiction understand the feeling of pride seeing someone you love come out the other side and be so strong and resilient in recovery.
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> “As I also said last week, I will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as Hunter considers an appeal. Jill and I will always be there for Hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. Nothing will ever change that.”
> **[Live updates: Hunter Biden found guilty of lying during gun purchase](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/06/11/hunter-biden-gun-trial-verdict-live-updates/)**
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> Hunter Biden was convicted on three felony charges related to a gun purchase in 2018.
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### Author:  [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1416 "2024-06-11T16:36:46Z")
I do find it refreshing that so many right wingers are celebrating strict enforcement of gun regulations.
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### Author:  [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1417 "2024-06-11T16:37:41Z")
a bit of jury info.
last night when they left it was 6-6, then this morning it was 11-1, then they got to 12-0. it hinged on the term “knowingly” .
this is per cnn reporting from an unnamed juror.
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1418 "2024-06-11T17:01:16Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Law enforcement can now show that this was not selective prosecution by going after _every single person_ who checked “no” on that form, but had used drugs at some point.
Joe Biden needs to propose “Hunter’s Law,” a common-sense package of gun reform that features increased measures to keep guns away from addicts, including more money to catch and convict current offenders.
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### Author:  [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1419 "2024-06-11T17:06:42Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I do find it refreshing that so many right wingers are celebrating strict enforcement of gun regulations.
As I am in favor of gun possession, by cocaine users, remaining illegal, this sounds good. If Hunter’s appeal gets to the Supreme Court, Alito should be a sure vote to uphold gun control.
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### Author:  [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1420 "2024-06-11T17:41:52Z")
It should be interesting to see the story fade from the front pages. It is of no consequence to the nation as a whole, and I assume it won’t take long for people to realize Hunter wasn’t part of the White House staff or involved government at any level.
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### Author:  [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1421 "2024-06-11T18:07:36Z")
I hate to go check X to see everyone gloating; no one wants to be an addict, he deserves sympathy.
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### Author:  [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1422 "2024-06-11T18:08:08Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> No opinion on the legal merits, and while it’s hard to argue that a conviction for his son helps Biden electorally, it does provide theopportunity to present a very clear and distinct contrast to Trump’s response to his conviction and other legal trials…
Claire McCaskill, on MSNBC, speculated that this does help Biden’s electoral chances, not that the President would be pleased. That, of course, safely assumes Biden will continue to respect the outcome. Think of what the reaction would be had he been found not guilty, she asked. However illogical, many (including non-MAGAs) would have viewed it as proof of an unfair system, one where Trump gets convicted but not the son of the President.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1423 "2024-06-11T18:16:55Z")
> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I look forward to his rant about how unfair this witchhunt against him was and how biased the judge was against him.
He said that he appreciates the support he received but he’s disappointed by the outcome.
> **[WATCH LIVE: Hunter Biden says he’s grateful for support but ‘disappointed’ by...](https://www.click2houston.com/news/politics/2024/06/11/the-latest-jury-to-resume-deliberations-in-hunter-bidens-federal-gun-trial/)**
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> After Hunter Biden’s guilty verdict was announced, the White House canceled press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre’s scheduled briefing and announced that President Joe Biden would spend the evening in Delaware to be with Hunter and other family members.
That’s the same thing, isn’t it?
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