# The Hunter Biden Investigation {thread started in 2019}, Hunter Pardoned on December 1, 2024
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 28, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964 "2019-09-28T19:54:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1464 "2024-06-12T00:22:18Z")
> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> The “sheer deliciousness of alcohol and drugs” has nothing to do with buying a gun nor of lying on an official document
I’m sorry. I thought you were making a comment on Joe Biden’s parenting skills. I do not dispute that Hunter should not have purchased a gun or lied on the form.
My mistake
> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> I think a lot of that is due to the fact my parents raised me up to respect the law while I was a child.
> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> A man who is so bad at leadership that he raised up a son who has become a convicted felon quite possibly soon to be on multiple counts as there are other charges still outstanding
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### Author:  [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1465 "2024-06-12T00:44:16Z")
Children do not always reflect on their parents. There are terrific people who bring up terrible children and vice versa. Perhaps Hunter lost his way because he lost his mother and sibling at a young age. Perhaps he just didn’t have enough time with his father. Or he could have been one of those who for whatever reason turned to drugs.
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### Author:  [@Cwturner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cwturner)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1466 "2024-06-12T00:57:21Z")
> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> A man who is so bad at leadership that he raised up a son who has become a convicted felon quite possibly soon to be on multiple counts as there are other charges still outstanding
Fred Trump has been dead for a while now. Let’s keep this current
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### Author:  [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1467 "2024-06-12T01:16:48Z")
[clap] Best answer to that post. Well done.
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### Author:  [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1468 "2024-06-12T01:29:24Z")
> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> The “sheer deliciousness of alcohol and drugs” has nothing to do with buying a gun nor of lying on an official document.
That would be the addiction.
The fact that he was able to overcome that addiction says a lot more about his character than the fact that he became addicted in the first place.
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### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1469 "2024-06-12T02:15:05Z")
> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> The “sheer deliciousness of alcohol and drugs” has nothing to do with buying a gun nor of lying on an official document.
By that same logic, addiction has no connection to sexual assault, robbing a convenience store, nor any other crime.
I think you’ll find that police statistics disagree with that sentiment. All of the evidence in the world, so far, has said that people who are addicted are more likely to commit pretty much every crime.
This one particular crime might not be the most common but, if one guy would rob a liquor store to get money for some crack then I can imagine another guy being willing to check a box on a form in order to protect himself while buying crack (or, whatever Hunter’s motive was).
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### Author:  [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1470 "2024-06-12T02:31:33Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> But now, of course, Republicans will be reassured that the justice system is impartial. Oh, wait…
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> From the Guardian:
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> > ]This trial has been nothing more than a distraction from the real crimes of the Biden Crime Family, which has raked in tens of millions of dollars from China, Russia and Ukraine,” the Trump campaign said in a statement.
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> > Matt Gaetz, the far-right congressman from Florida, was distinctly dismissive, posting on X: “The Hunter Biden gun conviction is kinda dumb tbh.”
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> > That was echoed by Charlie Kirk, a conservative activist and founder of Turning Point USA, who derided the conviction as a distraction from worse crimes he claimed have been committed by the president’s family.
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> > “Hunter Biden guilty. Yawn,” Kirk [wrote](https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1800549231297810745). “The true crimes of the Biden Crime Family remain untouched. This is a fake trial trying to make the Justice system appear ‘balanced.’ Don’t fall for it.”
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> > Nancy Mace, a Republican congresswoman for South Carolina, implied that the verdict was a sham. “Timing is everything. The veil of fairness in the justice system under @Potus,” she [wrote](https://x.com/repnancymace/status/1800551887256838476?s=12&t=ZFxqQ7lhc5A_GnIwEPrNSQ).
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> > Stephen Miller, one of Donald Trump’s closest advisers during his first presidency, went further still, posting: “DOJ is running election interference for Joe Biden – that’s why DOJ did NOT charge Hunter with being an unregistered foreign agent (FARA) or any crime connected with foreign corruption. Why? Because all the evidence would lead back to JOE.”
It truly boggles the mind how crazy the MAGA theories are getting. If I parse this correctly, they are claiming that Biden arranged for his own son to be prosecuted and convicted for a “minor” crime in order to cover up something even bigger. Presumably David Weiss must be in on it as well? Maybe the jury and the Trump appointed judge are also in on it? These guys keep getting nuttier and nuttier, but yet the base keeps believing this stuff.
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### Author:  [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1471 "2024-06-12T03:04:15Z")
Joe is all powerful. He’s got my vote.
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### Author:  [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1472 "2024-06-12T04:24:25Z")
> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> I am no expert but I believe good parenting can instill a knowledge of the dangers of drugs greatly reducing the chances of their child taking drugs.
I agree 100%; you are no expert.
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### Author:  [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1473 "2024-06-12T09:41:40Z")
Why _did_ Hunter want the gun? Drug-induced paranoia? An urge towards self-harm? Has he ever said?
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### Author:  [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1474 "2024-06-12T09:49:52Z")
I believe I read that he thought target shooting might be a pastime that would take his mind off using.
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### Author:  [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1475 "2024-06-12T09:51:06Z")
Shoulda gone with pickleball.
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### Author:  [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1476 "2024-06-12T09:54:28Z")
Yeah, their form is a lot less incriminating.
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### Author:  [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1477 "2024-06-12T10:13:57Z")
Trump and Co. are really petty, aren’t they? Can’t even offer a crumb of polite empathy.
> **[Team Trump Suddenly Takes Back Its Message to Hunter Biden](https://www.yahoo.com/news/team-trump-suddenly-takes-back-220821499.html)**
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> Donald Trump’s team made one very obvious edit to its initial statement on the Hunter Biden verdict.
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1478 "2024-06-12T11:37:08Z")
> [@JohnT](#):
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> I want my money back. This movie sucked. Where’s the damn box office? They’d better still be open!
Wasn’t there supposed to be a bunch of Ukranian political influence, millions of dollars in illegal contributions, and big guy something or other?
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### Author:  [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1479 "2024-06-12T11:55:00Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> If I parse this correctly, they are claiming that Biden arranged for his own son to be prosecuted and convicted for a “minor” crime in order to cover up something even bigger.
We already know that cheating so so commonplace with them that their default assumption is that everyone is always cheating all the time. Between that and the fact that the prosecution’s case wasn’t particularly strong and it was clearly politically motivated, I think even the right just assumed he’d be acquitted and they were totally unprepared for a guilty verdict and didn’t know what to do with themselves.
I found it kind of amusing. They had a guilty verdict. They have hours upon hours of testimony full of anecdotes about the sitting president’s son buying a gun and smoking crack. The laptop even made an appearance. Without lying about anything at all, they could (and probably will anyways) ride this all the way to the election.
But what do they do with all this ammo? They spin it into an existing conspiracy theory. Anyone that’s not far enough to the right to buy into the the Biden Crime Family thing is going to dismiss anything about Hunter’s guilty verdict as long as they’re being told it’s part of cover up.
It reminds me of Trump complaining about how the election was rigged against him, in 2016, after he won.
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### Author:  [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1480 "2024-06-12T11:57:53Z")
> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> Or is Hunter Bidon
It’s Biden with an E, not an O.
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### Author:  [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1481 "2024-06-12T18:16:41Z")
> [@bobot](#):
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> Wasn’t there supposed to be a bunch of Ukranian political influence, millions of dollars in illegal contributions, and big guy something or other?
That’s what the tax evasion trial is going to be about.
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### Author:  [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1482 "2024-06-12T19:54:48Z")
> [@Wrenching\_Spanners](#):
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> That’s what the tax evasion trial is going to be about.
No. He failed to pay Incomes taxes for a few years. Now he has paid the back taxes.
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### Author:  [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/1483 "2024-06-12T20:12:35Z")
> **[Where Hunter Biden's tax case stands after guilty verdict in federal gun trial](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-guilty-verdict-where-tax-case-stands-los-angeles/)**
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> Hunter Biden is set to stand trial in California in early September after he was indicted on nine federal tax charges.
> The president’s son was [indicted in December](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-indicted-tax-crimes-special-counsel/) and has [pleaded not guilty](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-to-be-arraigned-on-tax-charges-in-los-angeles/) to all counts. Prosecutors allege that Hunter Biden engaged in a four-year scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million income taxes for the tax years 2016 through 2019. Weiss and his team claim that Hunter Biden made more than $7 million between 2016 and the fall of 2020, and spent millions on an “extravagant lifestyle” while failing to pay his taxes.
I’m presuming there’s a basis for the prosecutors’ allegations. Which means that they’re going to look at where that $7 million came from, what he was doing to earn it, if he tried to hide that income, and if any of the mechanisms he used to hide that income involved foreign parties. There’s essentially no chance that Hunter Biden was being paid for the value of his work output. So the question is, what was he being paid for? Expect that to be examined ruthlessly, likely by the prosecutors and beyond doubt by the news organisations.
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