# The Hunter Biden Investigation {thread started in 2019}, Hunter Pardoned on December 1, 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 28, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964 "2019-09-28T19:54:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/141 "2019-10-07T13:58:35Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> [The Real Story of Donald Trump Jr. | GQ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gq.com/story/real-story-of-donald-trump-jr/amp)
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> So the other son cleaned himself up. My hat is off to anyone who does such things, and I am not being sarcastic.

You wrote “drug use” and “addiction.” Getting drunk occasionally in college is different from what Hunter Biden’s issues have been.

Obama’s daughter Malia was photographed smoking what appeared to be a joint. Would you categorize her along with Hunter Biden? I certainly wouldn’t.

So please provide a cite that backs up what YOU wrote both in facts and in spirit.

Thank you in advance.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/142 "2019-10-07T14:05:22Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> It appears that the _only_ mistake Obama ever made was saying he visited 57 states as that’s the only thing Trump supporters can point to.

Oh, wait until you hear his middle name! It’s scary!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/143 "2019-10-07T14:52:31Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> Y
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> So please provide a cite that backs up what YOU wrote both in facts and in spirit.
> 
> Thank you in advance.

OK, in the spirit of the esteemed Mr. Guilliani, I am holding up in my metephorical hand [an affidavit, which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt](http://web.archive.org/web/20150818094035/http://www.timecube.com/)that the information is absolutely true. It is so completely true, you don’t have to click on the link. At all. Just look at this affidavit I am waving about.

You are most welcome.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/144 "2019-10-07T15:00:23Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> You wrote “drug use” and “addiction.” Getting drunk occasionally in college is different from what Hunter Biden’s issues have been.
> 
> Obama’s daughter Malia was photographed smoking what appeared to be a joint. Would you categorize her along with Hunter Biden? I certainly wouldn’t.
> 
> So please provide a cite that backs up what YOU wrote both in facts and in spirit.
> 
> Thank you in advance.

Donald Trump Jr. has said he had a drinking problem, leading to his quitting alcohol:

> [@](#):
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> Not that Don never had his problems. It was during college, at the University of Pennsylvania, where he was enrolled in the Wharton undergrad program, when the repressed anger surfaced and the rebellion began. He had a reputation for getting into drunken, do-you-have-any-idea-who-I-am? fights. “To be fairly candid,” he says, “I used to drink a lot and party pretty hard, and it wasn’t something that I was particularly good at.” He laughs. **“I mean, I was good at it, but I couldn’t do it in moderation.** About two years ago, I quit drinking entirely. I have too much of an opportunity to make something of myself, be successful in my own right. Why blow it?”

> **[Donald Trump's Children - The Real Apprentices - Nymag](https://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/features/10610/index1.html)**
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> There is nothing in New York quite like the smoked-glass, gold-trimmed, pink-marbled splendor of Trump Tower. It is part shopping mall, part residential high-rise, part Trump Organization HQ, part reality-show setting, and, for our purposes, th \[...\]

You are welcome.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/145 "2019-10-07T15:50:24Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> Rudy Giuliani holds up what he claims are three affidavits but is actually a printout of a right-wing blog site… Later in the interview, he reads portions from the blog site printout as if they are from the affidavits.
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> Giuliani is reading from a blog called HopelesslyPartisan dot com, claiming to be affidavits.
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> People think I’m exaggerating when I say they’re trying to prove conspiracy theories from blogs true by repeating them enough. It is actually what The White House’s plan is.
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> [https://twitter.com/oneunderscore\_\_/status/1180971632975908865?s=19](https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1180971632975908865?s=19)
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> Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk

Appreciated, but unless you’re outing yourself as “oneunderscore,” your readers (I, for one) will be more likely to comprehend if you find a method of conveying that you’re not.

Because that post reads as though you mean to convey the linked tweet had been written by you.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/146 "2019-10-07T17:14:03Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> You wrote “drug use” and “addiction.” Getting drunk occasionally in college is different from what Hunter Biden’s issues have been.
> 
> Obama’s daughter Malia was photographed smoking what appeared to be a joint. Would you categorize her along with Hunter Biden? I certainly wouldn’t.

Don Jr. was nicknamed [Diaper Don](https://nypost.com/2018/06/18/biography-details-trump-jr-s-hard-partying-college-days/) in college because he was notorious for getting so drunk he would piss himself in bed. It was a problem.

But, it’s also a distraction from the topic of the thread, and sort of a weak “gotcha”, anyway.

> [@Northeast Refugee](#):
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> And it now looks like Congress MUST start investigating Joe Biden, if the Democrats have any shred of decency left (yeah, right)
> 
> In a sworn affidavit, prosecutor Victor Shokin testifies that, among other things:
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> 1. His actions did not suit Joe Biden and the persons connected to him.
> 2. He was forced out because he was leading wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma
> 3. He was pressured by (at the time) President Poroshenko to wind down investigation into Burisma. Who, in turn, if anyone, could pressure Poroshenko to make such demands of Shokin? Who, indeed…

This is begging for some context. This affidavit was produced in support of Dmytro Firtash, who is fighting extradition to the United States, where he faces charges of bribing Indian officials in furtherance of a business deal.

Who is [Firtash](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/lawyer-dmytro-firtash-could-be-extradited-u-s-early-july-n1014811)? Why, an associate of Paul Manafort! And an associate of Russian organized crime! It’s all so incestuous, isn’t it?

> [@From the cite above](#):
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> Dmytro Firtash was indicted in 2014 for what federal prosecutors in the Northern District of Illinois allege was his role in bribing Indian officials in order to get a lucrative mining deal to sell titanium to Boeing. He was arrested in Vienna in March 2014, released on $174 million bail, and has been contesting his extradition to the U.S. ever since…
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> Federal prosecutors said in a 2017 filing that Firtash and his co-defendant in the alleged bribery scheme, Andras Knopp, “have been identified by United States law enforcement as two upper-echelon associates of Russian organized crime.”…
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> A 2018 letter from Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., to then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions alleged that Firtash had acted as a “direct agent of the Kremlin” in a scheme to skim money from natural gas transfers between the Russian firm GazProm and Ukraine. NBC News obtained the letter via Freedom of Information Act litigation…
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> In 2008, according to court records, Firtash was involved with the firm of Paul Manafort, later Donald Trump’s campaign chair, in an abandoned plan to redevelop New York’s Drake Hotel for $850 million. Firtash’s company planned to invest more than $100 million, the records say.

Of course, now that Trump’s team is peddling a theory that Biden was interfering in Ukranian politics to protect his son, Firtash is jumping on that theory to bolster his claim that he’s merely a victim of American lies and treachery.

I wonder where they’d get such an idea? [Hmmm](https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/03/giuliani-claims-ukraine-corruption-case-firtash-dmytro-wanted-extradition-whistleblower-impeachment-biden/)…

> [@From the Hmmm](#):
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> In July, Firtash made a revealing change to his Washington legal team, hiring Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing, a husband-and-wife duo closely associated with the Trump administration. The pair reportedly worked with Giuliani as he sought to mine damaging information on the president’s rivals in Ukraine and have been involved in Republican Party campaigns dating back to the impeachment of Bill Clinton in 1998…
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> Firtash has fought a long extradition battle from Vienna, where he was first detained on a U.S. arrest warrant in 2014. His appeals appeared to reach the end of the road in June when the Austrian Supreme Court upheld a decision allowing for his extradition, but that has since been stalled after his defense team provided what the court called “extremely extensive material” in a bid to have the case reopened.
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> Toensing did not reply to a request for comment about the new material offered to the Austrian court. But a sworn statement by former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin for use in the case suggests that Firtash’s defense has, at least in part, relied on claims similar to those made by Giuliani. Shokin is the Ukrainian prosecutor at the heart of the whistleblower complaint that prompted congressional Democrats to open an impeachment inquiry into Trump…
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> Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine John Herbst said that Shokin, in giving a statement to Firtash’s defense team, undercuts any case the former prosecutor general might have to portray his comments about Biden as motivated by a desire for transparency. “Firtash is arguably the most odious, or one of the most odious oligarchs in Ukraine,” Herbst said…

Oh, and it should be noted that the affidavit was reported on by [John Solomon](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-a-conservative-columnist-helped-push-a-flawed-ukraine-narrative/2019/09/26/1654026e-dee7-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html), who has just been elevated to Fox News pundit, and who is basically the only journalist pushing this Hunter Biden malfeasance theory.

Never mind the fact that this affidavit misses two crucial points:

1. Joe Biden was not alone in pushing for Shokin’s removal (‘[The European Union has welcomed the dismissal of Ukraine’s scandal-ridden prosecutor general](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-hails-sacking-of-ukraine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190)’)

2. There is simply no contemporaneous corroboration for the proposition that Hunter Biden, or Burisma, were under investigation when Shokin was removed.

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/147 "2019-10-07T22:12:07Z")

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Look at those Bidens! This one, and that one, and those over there! Bad bad Bidens! Look! Look! Investigate! Investigate! (Wave arms, clap hands, yell and fart.) Bidens!

Look over there, not here. Don’t look at an administration actively committing treason, as constitutionally defined. And [del]bribes[/del] emoluments - what’s to see? Oh no, witness tampering and inciting violence against Americans aren’t unconstitutional.

Bidens! Bidens! They’re everywhere, like cockroaches, or just cocks & roaches. Bidens!

(Previously on this channel: Clintons! Obamas! Yo-mamas! Liberals! Mexicans! Junkies! {Except Rush Limbo, illegal addict.} Clintons again! More and more Clintons! And more!)

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**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/148 "2019-10-08T02:18:21Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> But, it’s also a distraction from the topic of the thread, and sort of a weak “gotcha”, anyway.

No, if they were not public figures, it would be grounds for a libel suit. Of course, anything negative about the Trumps or conservative seems to be fair game.

Hunter Biden and Obama have both used cocaine. I don’t hold it against Obama because it was done in his youth. However, Biden was thrown out of the Navy when he had a wife and children to support and was a fully actualized adult.

What company is going to hire someone with a cocaine problem? Probably one that doesn’t expect any real work to be done just influence peddling.

I would like to see a cite that backs up the claim that either Trump son has a “drug abuse” problem that is remotely what Hunter Biden has had.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/149 "2019-10-08T02:23:48Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> What company is going to hire someone with a cocaine problem? Probably one that doesn’t expect any real work to be done just influence peddling…

Like I said, GW Bush appointed him to the Amtrak Board of Directors. Yes, some boards are jut gladhanders/schmoozers for the company.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/150 "2019-10-08T02:29:13Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> No, if they were not public figures, it would be grounds for a libel suit. Of course, anything negative about the Trumps or conservative seems to be fair game.
> 
> Hunter Biden and Obama have both used cocaine. I don’t hold it against Obama because it was done in his youth. However, Biden was thrown out of the Navy when he had a wife and children to support and was a fully actualized adult.
> 
> What company is going to hire someone with a cocaine problem? Probably one that doesn’t expect any real work to be done just influence peddling.
> 
> I would like to see a cite that backs up the claim that either Trump son has a “drug abuse” problem that is remotely what Hunter Biden has had.

Why do you ask for cites if you don’t read my posts?

You’re welcome in advance!

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/151 "2019-10-08T04:07:24Z")

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> [@RioRico](#):
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> Look at those Bidens! This one, and that one, and those over there! Bad bad Bidens! Look! Look! Investigate! Investigate! (Wave arms, clap hands, yell and fart.) Bidens!
> 
> Look over there, not here. Don’t look at an administration actively committing treason, as constitutionally defined. And [del]bribes[/del] emoluments - what’s to see? Oh no, witness tampering and inciting violence against Americans aren’t unconstitutional.
> 
> Bidens! Bidens! They’re everywhere, like cockroaches, or just cocks & roaches. Bidens!
> 
> (Previously on this channel: Clintons! Obamas! Yo-mamas! Liberals! Mexicans! Junkies! {Except Rush Limbo, illegal addict.} Clintons again! More and more Clintons! And more!)

Don’t threadshit. I suggest you tone down your hyperbole that is present across most of your posts because many of them appear intentionally antagonistic.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/152 "2019-10-08T04:08:58Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> I would like to see a cite that backs up the claim that either Trump son has a “drug abuse” problem that is remotely what Hunter Biden has had.

You’ve gotten what you asked for. You seem intent on beating on this comparison to Obama drum but that’s not what this thread id about. Drop this tangent.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/153 "2019-10-08T04:23:36Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Like I said, GW Bush appointed him to the Amtrak Board of Directors. Yes, some boards are jut gladhanders/schmoozers for the company.

Wasn’t Bush himself a well-known alcoholic who also served on the boards of different companies?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/154 "2019-10-08T05:51:06Z")

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If you say so. I guess Bush knew how to spot someone with the qualifications for the job then.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/155 "2019-10-08T06:25:44Z")

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Well, if not a full-blown alcoholic, he did confess to drinking too much.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/156 "2019-10-08T06:33:27Z")

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There was a bunch of chatter about him being a “dry drunk” when he was in office but it sounded so petty I didn’t get into it. Oh, they had a shot of him chatting with Ellen DeGeneres at the Dallas game this weekend. Guess they were sitting next to each other in the same box.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/157 "2019-10-08T12:45:12Z")

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Laura Bush has said that he had a [“drinking problem,”](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/laura-bush-reveals-george-stopped-drinking/story?id=10552148) so I suppose it depends on the definitions and perspectives. But I don’t think it’s worth continuing the hijack, so I’ll drop it.

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**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/158 "2019-10-12T00:24:00Z")

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**Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying – Ukrainian MP**

"KYIV. Oct 9 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine’s Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.

Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, “describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr.” at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine’s press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.

“This was the transfer of Burisma Group’s funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services,” Derkach said.

> **[Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying – Ukrainian MP](https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936.html)**
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> KYIV. Oct 9 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/159 "2019-10-12T00:48:14Z")

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I propose a $500 bet. If it’s true that Joe Biden got nearly a million dollars from this company, I will write you a check. If not, you pay me.

Deal?

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-thread-started-in-2019-hunter-pardoned-on-december-1-2024/840964/160 "2019-10-12T00:52:12Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> **Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying – Ukrainian MP**
> 
> "KYIV. Oct 9 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine’s Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.
> 
> Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, “describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr.” at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine’s press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.
> 
> “This was the transfer of Burisma Group’s funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services,” Derkach said.
> 
> [https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936.html](https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936.html)

Our [source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfax):  
“Interfax Ltd. (Russian: Интерфакс) is a privately-held independent major news agency in Russia (along with state-operated TASS and RIA Novosti) and information services company headquartered in Moscow.”

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