# The "I am afraid to have children" argument gains strength

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 18, 2007, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516 "2007-06-18T22:23:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/21 "2007-06-19T15:53:28Z")

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I could never be a pedophile. I don’t even like being around kids that much, let alone having one calling me all the time wanting to “hang out.” Look, kid, it was one night. Sure we had fun, but let’s not get “clingy.”

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/22 "2007-06-19T16:13:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip]  
I could never be a pedophile. I don’t even like being around kids that much, let alone having one calling me all the time wanting to “hang out.” Look, kid, it was one night. Sure we had fun, but let’s not get “clingy.”  
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Alright already, we get the point. 😉

Question (maybe this should have been the direction of the OP);

How come no-one was arrested for the actuall rapings? The link seems to say that everyone involved was in trouble for possessing and distributing the images. Who the hell did the actual molesting?

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/23 "2007-06-19T16:14:19Z")

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The real reason you should be afraid to have children is that sometimes when the baby is being birthed, it can poke its arm straight through the wall of your vagina and into your colon, at which point the baby’s hand comes out of your ass at the same time its head crowns out of your vagina. At this point, the only safe medical course of action that won’t kill the baby or you or both is to simply cut through all the skin and muscle between your vagina and asshole all the way back to where the baby’s arm can come through the now unified vaginasshole.

MAYBE, if you’re lucky, you’ll be able to have normal bowel movements again, someday.

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**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/24 "2007-06-19T16:20:53Z")

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Are you signed up for “Perfect World Notification”? It’s the only way to guarantee that it has become safe to procreate. Really.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/25 "2007-06-19T16:23:34Z")

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[QUOTE=acsenray]  
I think your mistake was not giving _some_ clue in the title or the OP what you were upset about and relying people to view the link. I think the top of each forum says something like “please use descriptive titles.”  
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Actually I thought this thread was going to be one of the “breeders” vs. “child-free” type of arguments. Or something about a rugrat doing something to scare an aunt or uncle so bad that the not-yet-parent was thinking “No way I’m having kids. Too scary.”

The thread tile meant nothing to me. As it is, the subject matter is the kind that can only really produce responses like:

"How horrible!  
“I agree, it’s horrible!”  
"Ditto!  
“Me too!”

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/26 "2007-06-19T16:33:54Z")

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What I’m wondering, I mean besides how the OP knew that my not posting to this thread until now means that I just don’t give a fuck, is: How does this news give the “I am afraid to have children” argument strength? Are there people who won’t have children because they’re afraid they would want to have sex with them? Then these people shouldn’t have children. Are there people who are afraid to have children because British pedophiles will make streaming videos with them? Well, then, those people shouldn’t have children either because they are far, far to paranoid to be trusted with goldfish, much less children. People who are afraid to raise children shouldn’t.

In all honestly, I feel bad for these children. I mean, really, really bad. It must have been a horrific experience living life going from one sexual abusive episode to the next. I’m glad the kiddy diddlers get what they deserve from the penal system and from life in general. But really, OPer, this goes without saying.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/27 "2007-06-19T16:46:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Apos]  
The real reason you should be afraid to have children is that sometimes when the baby is being birthed, it can poke its arm straight through the wall of your vagina and into your colon, at which point the baby’s hand comes out of your ass at the same time its head crowns out of your vagina. At this point, the only safe medical course of action that won’t kill the baby or you or both is to simply cut through all the skin and muscle between your vagina and asshole all the way back to where the baby’s arm can come through the now unified vaginasshole.  
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And if you’ve never had a chance to see “the miracle of life” firsthand, you can always rent _Alien_.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/28 "2007-06-19T18:02:25Z")

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[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach]  
I didn’t know that not commenting in a thread was tantamount to supporting the action being pitted.

Ignorance fought.  
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To avoid this, I started automatically posting “ **How Awful!** ” to any RO thread I came across but that ended up taking up a lot of time so I moved to just posting **HA!** as obvious shorthand but that seemed to piss people off for some reason so now I’ve retreated back to silent tears.

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/29 "2007-06-19T18:08:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip]  
I could never be a pedophile. I don’t even like being around kids that much, let alone having one calling me all the time wanting to “hang out.” Look, kid, it was one night. Sure we had fun, but let’s not get “clingy.”  
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Three year old’s are like that sometimes.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/30 "2007-06-19T18:31:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Jodi]  
To avoid this, I started automatically posting “ **How Awful!** ” to any RO thread I came across but that ended up taking up a lot of time so I moved to just posting **HA!** as obvious shorthand but that seemed to piss people off for some reason so now I’ve retreated back to silent tears.  
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If I were a man, or a lesbian in a gay-marriage-legal country, and not already married, I would totally propose to you just on the strength of this post. 😃

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/31 "2007-06-19T18:32:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Jelymag]  
I guess nobody else is upset about thirty-one unknown children who basically lived a life where fucking perverts from around the globe placed orders to watch their next live brutal rape. What the fuck.  
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Yes, so very true. _No one_ else is upset at all. Uh-huh.

:rolleyes:

What a maroon.

…

As to the story in question: well, yeah, it’s horrible. Not sure what one is supposed to say.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/32 "2007-06-19T18:38:04Z")

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[QUOTE=TroubleAgain]  
If I were a man, or a lesbian in a gay-marriage-legal country, and not already married, I would totally propose to you just on the strength of this post. 😃  
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Always with the excuses to avoid proposing: _We’re the same sex! And neither of us are gay! And I’m already married!_ My heart is not your plaything! _:: Sob ::_

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/33 "2007-06-19T18:58:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by **Jodi**  
> Always with the excuses to avoid proposing: _We’re the same sex! And neither of us are gay! And I’m already married!_ My heart is not your plaything! _:: Sob ::_

HA!

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/34 "2007-06-19T19:03:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Jodi]  
My heart is not your plaything! _:: Sob ::_  
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I can live with that. But how about your body? 😃

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/35 "2007-06-19T19:31:00Z")

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[QUOTE=RTFirefly]  
I can live with that. But how about your body? 😃  
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She could bring it to Massachusetts, where gay marriage is proudly legal.

_hint_

😉

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/36 "2007-06-19T20:20:13Z")

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[QUOTE=kezami]  
700 is a lot of people.  
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They should have a club or something.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/37 "2007-06-19T20:40:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Biggirl]

In all honestly, I feel bad for these children. I mean, really, really bad. It must have been a horrific experience living life going from one sexual abusive episode to the next. I’m glad the kiddy diddlers get what they deserve from the penal system and from life in general. But really, OPer, this goes without saying.  
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You said penal.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/38 "2007-06-19T20:42:57Z")

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Somewhere Pat Robertson is praying that the pedophile club either loses or gains at least one member.

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**Author:** ![kezami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eb8c5e/32.png) [@kezami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kezami)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/39 "2007-06-19T21:00:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
They should have a club or something.  
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Hey! [It’s](http://www.canadianedition.com/) in Canada too!

Slogan says “Reaching Out and Touching Lives”

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-am-afraid-to-have-children-argument-gains-strength/408516/40 "2007-06-19T21:10:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip]  
Somewhere Pat Robertson is praying that the pedophile club either loses or gains at least one member.  
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A big throbbing member.

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