# The "I really loved their music for one cd, but now hate them" thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 5, 2001, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944 "2001-12-05T01:38:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2001, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/21 "2001-12-05T16:14:01Z")
Everyone who bashed DMB, right on! Count me in on the “all their songs sound the same” front. Spin Docters and Hootie and the Blowfish are good choices. They went from being popular groups to inspiring outright hatred for their music. I bet record stores _still_ have used copies of their CDs that they can’t sell. I’d like to add Smash Mouth to this list. Their first album, Fush Yu Mang, was a cool punkish/hardcoreish rock album. But the only songs from it that were hits were “Walking On The Sun” and a cover of “Why Can’t We Be Friends?”. So their second album is all poppy radio trash and a cover. Haven’t heard their new one yet, and I can’t say I really care to. ---
**Author:** ![RaCha\_ar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@RaCha\_ar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaCha_ar)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2001, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/22 "2001-12-05T16:46:46Z")
I’m still an idiot. Reverse _Adore_ and _Aeroplane Flies high_ in the above, please. No more posting when annoyed and exhausted. Bad Saffs! ::hangs head in shame:: **ElwoodCuse** , you are right on with Smashmouth. Mom gave me Egg Fu Yong or whatever the hell it was called because I liked “Walking on the Sun,” and I was pleasantly surprised to find that it didn’t suck. Then they decided to sell out and go with their rehashed beach-movie sound for the rest of their careers. Meh. ---
**Author:** ![DaveX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/96bed5/32.png) [@DaveX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveX)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2001, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/23 "2001-12-05T16:56:49Z")
Let’s add **Everclear** to the list. Your dad abandoned you… we get it already. Write about something else, will ya? As far as **Live** goes, I thought **Throwing Copper** was a great album… but everything after that _has_ sucked. As far as **Matthew Good Band** , I didn’t “discover” them until **Beautiful Midnight** , so I can’t nominate them, yet… And I’d like to second the vote on **Bare Naked Ladies**. **Gordon** was pretty good, but everything since has been derivative. Plus, they are not nearly as clever as they think they are. ---
**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2001, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/24 "2001-12-05T17:14:10Z")
**Limp Bizkit** ’s _Three Dollar Bill Yall_ had some really great tunes. After that they seemed to be all about the MTV garbage. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Red\_Menace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@The\_Red\_Menace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Red_Menace)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2001, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/25 "2001-12-05T17:19:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by saffostarr \* > **I’m still an idiot. Reverse _Adore_ and _Aeroplane Flies high_ in the above, please. No more posting when annoyed and exhausted. Bad Saffs! ::hangs head in shame::** Alright, take back that comment about me being rude (which I wasn’t) and we’ll call it even. For what it’s worth I think **Bush** merits an inclusion in this list. They’ve always been a ripoff band, but 16 Stone was nevertheless a pretty darn good record. Then they somehow took it into there heads that they were actually artists, hired Steve Albini, and the rest is mediocre history. ---
**Author:** ![RaCha\_ar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@RaCha\_ar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaCha_ar)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2001, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/26 "2001-12-05T17:34:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Red Menace \* > \*\*Please try to at least make an attempt at getting the facts correct next time. \*\* That wasn’t rude? 😕 Sorry, it looked that way to me. Sorry for hijacking this thread, y’all. ---
**Author:** ![Big\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Big\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2001, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/27 "2001-12-05T18:07:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jeremy’s Evil Twin \* > \*\*Mr. Bungle’s first CD was an epic masterpiece. Their next one was a totally unlistenable mess of random sounds and notes – can’t even really call it “music”. > \*\* “Disco Volante” did suck, but the third **Mr. Bungle** album “California” was alright though. Isn’t anyone else tired of hearing **Limp Bizkit**? I’ll second the **Everclear**. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Red\_Menace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@The\_Red\_Menace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Red_Menace)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2001, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/28 "2001-12-05T18:26:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by saffostarr \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by The Red Menace \* > > \*\*Please try to at least make an attempt at getting the facts correct next time. \*\* > > That wasn’t rude? 😕 Sorry, it looked that way to me. > > Sorry for hijacking this thread, y’all. \*\* No, it wasn’t, and if you need me to explain either send me an email or start a pit thread and I’ll be happy to explain there. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2001, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/29 "2001-12-05T21:47:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zanshin \* > \*\ ***Eonwe** stole mine before I could post. Liked ‘Under the Table and Dreaming’, but everything after that sounds exactly the friggin’ same. DMB, please **STOP STOP STOP!!!** > \*\* I have to respectfully disagree. I bought “Under…” because I liked two of the songs on it. I have listened to it a total of one time, because upon hearing it that time, I thought that five songs in the middle were one really long one. Therefore, in my opinion, they’re _always_ played the same song. ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2001, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/30 "2001-12-05T23:26:25Z")
Can I nominate **Garbage**? Their first record was one of the best of the year it came out, and was the soundtrack to the whole summer. Everything they’ve done since has been mundane, IMHO. And FWIW, I LOVE the second Mr Bungle record, and have since the day it came out (although I don’t listen to it much these days). I will admit that the first and third records are better, but they’re all great. ---
**Author:** ![RaCha\_ar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@RaCha\_ar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaCha_ar)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2001, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/31 "2001-12-05T23:38:52Z")
That’s okay, **Red Menace** , I’m willing to accept that it was misinterpretation on my part and call a truce. Yeesh. And just in case this looks like a total hijack again, DMB’s music does all sound the same. I’m told they’re great in concert, but I don’t want to sit through three hours of the same song to find out. ---
**Author:** ![Flymaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@Flymaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flymaster)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2001, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/32 "2001-12-06T00:08:41Z")
**Slash’s Snakepit** - _It’s 5 O’Clock Somwhere_ was a monumental album…100% genius. Flawless. The follow-up, _Ain’t Life Grand_, frankly, sucked. ---
**Author:** ![Neil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/839c29/32.png) [@Neil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neil)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2001, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/33 "2001-12-06T06:08:43Z")
I keep considering checking out a DMB album, since everyone tells me they’re awesome…but everytime I hear a song, yeah, they all sound too much alike, and I just can’t get into it. I’m afraid to voice this opinion much, since I live on a college campus. I had another band to mention, but I forgot. -Neil ---
**Author:** ![Bedrosian\_Bixby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@Bedrosian\_Bixby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bedrosian_Bixby)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2001, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/34 "2001-12-06T08:04:34Z")
Another vote for Live here! They blew their load at Mental Jewelry. This may sound like sacrelige to some, but I am sorely disappointed in Nine Inch Nails. Pretty Hate Machine is one of my all-time favorite albums. It still remains in heavy rotation in my car, but I’ve never been able to get into the other albums. Every now and again, Trent will get a single right (i.e. Perfect Drug), but no album is as complete as PHM. It’s has the full album feel, like every song is part of an intricate, yet morbid tapestry. ---
**Author:** ![dwc1970](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a183cd/32.png) [@dwc1970](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dwc1970)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2001, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/35 "2001-12-06T16:29:44Z")
> [@](#): > > For what it’s worth I think **Bush** merits an inclusion in this list. They’ve always been a ripoff band, but 16 Stone was nevertheless a pretty darn good record. Then they somehow took it into there heads that they were actually artists, hired Steve Albini, and the rest is mediocre history. \*\* I will second **Bush** as being a band whose only worthwhile CD is _Sixteen Stone_. I was highly disappointed by _Razorblade Suitcase_. I heard one good song from this one on the radio and bought the CD, thinking it would all be good. Instead the rest of the CD is garbage. I was even more disappointed when I heard “The Chemicals Between Us” on the radio. I was thinking, “WTF?! This _can’t_ be Bush!” When “Letting the Cables Sleep” came out, I was definitely convinced that Bush’s latest release at the time was not worth buying. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Red\_Menace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@The\_Red\_Menace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Red_Menace)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2001, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/36 "2001-12-06T17:36:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bedrosian Bixby \* > \*\*This may sound like sacrelige to some, but I am sorely disappointed in Nine Inch Nails. Pretty Hate Machine is one of my all-time favorite albums. It still remains in heavy rotation in my car, but I’ve never been able to get into the other albums. Every now and again, Trent will get a single right (i.e. Perfect Drug), but no album is as complete as PHM. It’s has the full album feel, like every song is part of an intricate, yet morbid tapestry. \*\* I’m not surprised that someone would include Nine Inch Nails, but I am pretty surprised at where you put the cuttoff. Most people I know that liked NIN, and then stopped liking them place _The Fragile_ as being the record that soured them on the band. I think the Fragile is too long to have a unified “album” feel, but I think that the preceding album _The Downward Spiral_ sticks to it’s concept pretty well; every song is a piece of the puzzle. ---
**Author:** ![Bedrosian\_Bixby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@Bedrosian\_Bixby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bedrosian_Bixby)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2001, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944/37 "2001-12-06T19:04:06Z")
Maybe it was the epic Goth poem that was Pretty Hate Machine that I loved so much. Things just got choppier after that. I’m not saying certain parts of other albums weren’t great, but IMHO they fell short of his first effort. I could just be stubborn. It’s tough to accept new forms from a person that created my idea of the perfect album. Trent did, in one album, what most 80’s Goth bands couldn’t accomplish in a lifetime. He created music’s equivelant of Poe’s “Fall of the House of Usher”. I think NIN’s later albums just fell short of my own expectations. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-i-really-loved-their-music-for-one-cd-but-now-hate-them-thread/96944.md?page=1)