The ICE shooting in Minneapolis (1/7/2026)

The much greater trouble was there before she even arrived.

No, didn’t happen.

She was literally waving cars to pass her. A car drove past her seconds before she was shot.

There was no obstruction. None at all.

See here from 1m30

As in, petition the Government for a redress of grievances?

I’m not one of those calling the shooter a murderer, partly because he may have been put in a terrifying confusing situation due to bad training.

Did you notice my earlier link about ICE agent training now being reduced to 47 days due to Trump being president number 47? This is a terrible tell to me. Law enforcement in a representative democracy, which is what we used to be, is trained to serve the people and follow the law. In a dictatorship, law enforcement is to serve the dictator, and that’s the obvious-to-me message of reducing the training period to 47 days. And the dictator says – shooting into a moving vehicle, despite being, for excellent reasons, against normal police rules – is just fine.

You are brave to, after years away, post in a forum where almost everyone will disagree with you. In general, I approve of that. But I wish it was not in defence of the killing of Renee Nicole Good. That was wrong. The question in my mind is who is most at fault.

Have any videos actually shown an ICE vehicle stuck in the snow?

There’s a British TV personality by that name. He’s a chat show host, among other things.

Who is most at fault? As noted, the ones in power that have the Motive, the Means and the Opportunity to commit crimes without being caught or stopped, thanks also because they too control law enforcement institutions that were supposed to be more independent.

The first “John Ross” I can think of is the wide receiver out of the University of Washington, who had the fastest 40-yard dash in the history of the Combine when we tried out there. (Until Xavier Worthy beat it by 1/100th of a second a couple years ago.)

He was a first round pick in the NFL draft, but his pro career was marred with disappointment, where he barely got any playing time, both due to injury and his elite college play not translating to the NFL when he was healthy. I think he’s officially retired now, but I don’t think he works for ICE and I don’t think anyone would mistake him for the guy in the video.

The latest from Jesse Welles.

Good vs Ice

He is on top things.

That’s literally not what obstruction means in the sense of “obstruction of justice”! Not even slightly. You’ll notice she didn’t even block the roadway, the first truck easily past her. That was a minor traffic offense at worst.

Not that it matters. She could have been a mass shooter escaping an elementary school shooting, and that would still be 100% murder.

From the AP report:

The Minneapolis shooting of Renee Good by an ICE officer will be investigated solely by the FBI, which has barred Minnesota investigators from accessing evidence.

Why? My guess is that the Orange Buffoon informed Kash Patel that the ICE shooter is to be cleared of any wrongdoing and the case closed, and we don’t need no stinkin’ meddlers from the state messing up the works. This is justice in Trumpworld. Meanwhile he’s still trying to get Letitia James and James Comey indicted, and Mark Kelly court-martialed.

I’m sure neither Kash Patel nor anyone else in the federal law enforcement hierarchy needs telling that is exactly what is expected of them in this case.

So far, there’s no Givesendgo for Mr. Ross, but there is a Gofundme for Renee’s family, which so far has raised more than $1 million. I hope they get some good financial advice.

I also just read that Ross is “at home with his family.” One wonders what kind of horrors he’s inflicted on them, and when people are going to start showing up at HIS house and cause trouble until he gives himself up.

Give himself up to who? His bosses, all the way up to the Great Orange One, are determined to exonerate him. They have no problem contradicting the plain video evidence with blatant lies. Maybe they’ll give him a medal. :roll_eyes:

He’s got a target on his back right now.

Hahaha! This is a parody of a blind MAGA Kool-Aid consumer. Right?
If not…see you in the Pit!

Exactly! She never did this, never intended to do this, never had anything to do with this. Not an idiot, and did not use her car in this way. She was in the middle of an obvious, run-of-the-mill K-turn (also called 3-point turn)…which everyone knows has a single purpose: to drive away, harmlessly.

Even if we hypothetically stipulate to this uncited and unproven assertion, you should be able to provide a citation to the statute which codifies “going somewhere to cause trouble” as a capital offense whose sentence may be carried out extrajudicially by any federal official.

Nonsense, it’s obvious that this 37 year old mother decided that, while surrounded by men in full-on combat gear, she wanted to kill one of them. So she put her Honda Pilot in drive, winked at her wife sitting next to her, and hit the gas, knowing that with 2 feet of room to accelerate on a snow covered road she was going to be able to build up enough speed to pancake one of them.

/s, of course. I hate this timeline.

Has anyone yet seen an explanation of why Good had her vehicle in that spot? Just curious, as I haven’t seen it yet.

Today I read Noem saying (paraphrase); “He shot to protect the lives/safety of himself and other officers.” I imagine they feel that is the line needed to provide themselves whatever cover is needed. But it clearly is a lie. He didn’t need to do ANYTHING to protect everyone’s safety other than step out from in front of the car.

It bothers me that folk speak as though they know what Good was thinking, such as she was merely trying to follow commands to get out of there. At the least, it seems the commands from the thugs near her door were confusing and possibly contradictory.

I’m going to have to do a little reading about the LEO’s immunity. Not sure that excuses unreasonable use of excessive force, or what state officials can do in what courts.

And then again …

The tragedy of the Good case is compounded by a legal regime that all but ensures federal agents remain untouchable by civil damages lawsuits. If a local police officer violates your rights, you can sue under a longstanding federal civil rights law referred to as “Section 1983.” But for misconduct by federal agents, no such statutory remedy exists. Instead, victims must rely on the Bivens Doctrine, a 1971 court precedent creating an implied right of action to sue federal officials for constitutional violations. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court has since pared the doctrine down to near irrelevance.

And Jesus wept.