# The ICE shootings in Minneapolis (1/7/2026) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461 "2026-01-08T05:32:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/203 "2026-01-09T20:15:18Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > The case is being handled by this compromised FBI, headed by incompetent, lying, sycophantic Kash Patel. Except it’s not. Obviously he’s never going to face federal charges but the state is completely entitled to prosecute him, it is looking like [they will](https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5680312-fbi-rescinds-cooperation-minnesota/): > Hennepin County Attorney Mary Moriarty on Thursday said Minneapolis officials will launch an independent probe into the [fatal shooting](https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5676754-minneapolis-ice-shooting-walz/) of a local woman while she was in her car The complication is the case will likely end up being prosecuted in a federal court, by state prosecutors. But that doesn’t doom it as long it doesn’t end up before an Aileen Cannon style judge…. > **[Minnesota Could Prosecute the ICE Shooter. Trump Can’t Pardon Him.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2026/01/is-minneapolis-ice-shooter-immune-state-prosecution-supreme-court.html)** > > Shortly after an ICE officer shot and killed a woman in Minneapolis, city leaders began looking into whether the officer had violated state criminal law. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/204 "2026-01-09T20:42:46Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > That’s not a law, it’s just a policy. Violating it is not a criminal offense. See the very last paragraph: However as if this is prosecuted by the state (the only way it is reasonably going to be prosecuted under this administration), it will likely be decided on whether his actions were “[necessary and proper](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2026/01/is-minneapolis-ice-shooter-immune-state-prosecution-supreme-court.html)” as a federal officer. IANAL but I imagine a federal policy saying in black and white that DHS officers cannot do anything like that is pretty good evidence they were neither necessary nor proper. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/205 "2026-01-09T20:50:03Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > “We know he was dragged by a car months earlier.” How do we know that? Because JD says so? We know that because we have video evidence of it. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/tGWwKznwdXw/maxresdefault.jpg "Shocking footage shows driver dragging deportation officer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGWwKznwdXw) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/206 "2026-01-09T20:56:57Z")
Here’s a stillshot of the woman smiling at the shooter and saying “That’s fine dude. I’m not mad at you” about 20 seconds before he shoots her in the face three times point blank and calls her a fucking bitch. [![](https://www.abdpost.com/images/media/2026/01/new-video-shot-by-ice-agent-who-killed-renee-good-shows-what-happened-1767981608.jpg) ](https://www.abdpost.com/images/media/2026/01/new-video-shot-by-ice-agent-who-killed-renee-good-shows-what-happened-1767981608.jpg) And just a reminder that this “domestic terrorist” had her kid’s stuffies in the front seat next to her. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/207 "2026-01-09T21:01:53Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Here’s a stillshot of the woman Here’s the video. > **[Minneapolis ICE Shooting Video From Agent's POV](https://www.tmz.com/watch/new-ice-angle-01-09-2025/)** > > Here's a new angle of the ICE shooting in Minnesota ... and it's intense. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/208 "2026-01-09T21:05:57Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > > [@Dinsdale](#): > > > > Has anyone yet seen an explanation of why Good had her vehicle in that spot? Just curious, as I haven’t seen it yet. > > You could’ve just looked this up yourself. She was dropping her kid off at school. See, that statement contradicts what had been said about her previously, i.e. that she was there as a peaceful observer. I have now heard contradictory accounts coming from people who oppose Trump and the shooting. I do not know which one is correct. Investigations need to be made and questions like this one clearly answered. Nothing is simple, just because it’s recorded on camera. We need the facts to be clearly established to prosecute the killers. ---
**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/209 "2026-01-09T21:10:10Z")
> [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > It is impossible to have discussion about anything on this board any longer, the derangement is just too strong. Oh, I fully agree! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/210 "2026-01-09T21:11:47Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > > [@Joey\_P](#): > > > > You could’ve just looked this up yourself. She was dropping her kid off at school. > > See, that statement contradicts what had been said about her previously, i.e. that she was there as a peaceful observer. Maybe she dropped her kid off at school, and then went to be a peaceful observer? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/211 "2026-01-09T21:16:22Z")
From today’s Status Kuo substack: > [@](#): > > Attorney Jenin Younes, a civil libertarian best known for suing the Biden administration for leaning on tech companies to take down misinformation, [demolished](https://substack.com/redirect/a24c9f93-457d-45f7-a250-eceb94e8c217?j=eyJ1IjoiMW41NzhoIn0.q3cLCJVGrEgqypjfbjwMPpwk8bUYT4UpGeq4eJuaPDM) this argument of “self defense.” > > > ICE officers have no authority to search a US citizen or arrest her (unless there’s probable cause to believe she’s harboring undocumented individuals, not a contention here). A woman surrounded by masked, armed men who have no law enforcement authority over her has every right to try to escape. Video shows her steering wheel is turned to the right, clearly an attempt to leave WITHOUT hitting anyone and steer clear of the officer standing towards the front of her car. That officer had time to step to the side, which is where he was when he shot her. > > > > Even a real police officer would not have the right to shoot at her for trying to flee. This is well-established in the case law; deadly force may not be used simply to prevent someone from getting away. Given that the ICE officers had no law enforcement authority to begin with, AND the video footage shows she was trying to escape a perceived threat, not to kill anyone, the crime is all the more inexcusable. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/212 "2026-01-09T21:23:06Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Maybe she dropped her kid off at school, and then went to be a peaceful observer? That’s what I understand she and her wife did. On their way home, they stopped at her wife’s suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/213 "2026-01-09T21:26:30Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Fucking Vance is calling her an arm or instrument of the lunatic left and saying anybody can clearly see in the video that she was trying to ram the ICE agent. Unfortunately, many residents of our once-great nation can’t clearly see at all due to the RWNJ BS covering their eyes. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/214 "2026-01-09T21:29:34Z")
> [@needscoffee (citing Status Kuo)](#): > > This is well-established in the case law; deadly force may not be used simply to prevent someone from getting away. We all know the dramatic leanings of the current SCOTUS, but – for those who have interest in these sorts of things – two cases that seem relevant in this situation: > **[Tennessee v. Garner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner)** > > Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985), is a civil case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that, under the Fourth Amendment, when a law enforcement officer is pursuing a fleeing suspect, the officer may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless "the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others." > It was found that the use of deadly force to prevent escape is an unreasonable s... > **[Graham v. Connor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_v._Connor)** > > Graham v. Connor, 490 U.S. 386 (1989), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court determined that an objective reasonableness standard should apply to a civilian's claim that law enforcement officials used excessive force in the course of making an arrest, investigatory stop, or other "seizure" of his or her person. > Chief Justice Rehnquist once again rejected the idea of §1983 as "a source of substantive rights". The Court ruled that excessive force claims in the context of inv... As I think I said before, ISTM that the fact that the other two LEOs weren’t fearing for _their_ lives, and didn’t apparently believe that Ms. Good post a serious threat to others hurts the shooter’s case dramatically. Regardless of where this does or doesn’t end up. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/215 "2026-01-09T21:30:40Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > know that because we have video evidence of it Yup, and as I say above that not a defense that’s _motive_! It speaks directly the _mens rea_ of the accused. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/216 "2026-01-09T21:35:04Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Yup, and as I say above that not a defense that’s _motive_! I completely agree. That guy should not have been there doing that job. Just a further sign that things are out of control. ---
**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/217 "2026-01-09T21:36:34Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > assume the shooter was standing directly in front of a car that is hurtling at him. Narrator: He was not, and it was not. ---
**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/218 "2026-01-09T21:40:05Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > It would make _some_ difference to me if Ms Good were simply a mom pulling out of her driveway, as opposed to someone who had been directly confronting ICE officials on this or prior days. No, in neither situation ought she have been shot. But it WOULD make a difference to me in understanding the degree of risk an average bystander or peaceful protester faces as opposed to an active confronter. What difference would it make, given that it is perfectly legal to observe and film law enforcement? ---
**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/219 "2026-01-09T21:46:08Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > See, that statement contradicts what had been said about her previously, i.e. that she was there as a peaceful observer. ELI5 how those things are mutually exclusive? TIA ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/220 "2026-01-09T21:58:04Z")
> [@irae](#): > > > [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > > > It is impossible to have discussion about anything on this board any longer, the derangement is just too strong. > > Oh, I fully agree! And even after another 100 posts, I am still being quoted for a fairly mild post that disagreed, slightly, with the common SDMB view. I wasn’t even trying to argue, but it will be allowed to continue, with reenforcement from the moderators. People wonder why this board is in such deline. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/221 "2026-01-09T22:00:21Z")
After the _Access Hollywood_ (ie, “Grab 'em by the p\*\*\*\*”) tape was made public, a significant number of Republicans simply said, "I’m not going to try to defend the indefensible. I miss those days. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/222 "2026-01-09T22:01:59Z")
Moderating: > [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > I wasn’t even trying to argue, but it will be allowed to continue, with reenforcement from the moderators. People wonder why this board is in such deline. If you want to complain about moderation, do it in ATMB. Stop doing it in this thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461.md?page=12)