# The ICE shootings in Minneapolis (1/7/2026)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461 "2026-01-08T05:32:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/329 "2026-01-10T18:15:03Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> Did you have three cops yelling conflicting orders at you in those situations?

What conflicting orders?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/330 "2026-01-10T18:20:56Z")

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Watch the videos.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/331 "2026-01-10T18:21:36Z")

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answer the question

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/332 "2026-01-10T18:24:24Z")

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One officer told her to leave. She tried to leave and then was murdered for it.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/333 "2026-01-10T18:26:02Z")

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Is that on the video? I, too, haven’t watched it.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/334 "2026-01-10T18:28:33Z")

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are you referring to Good’s wife who repeated yelled at her to drive.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/335 "2026-01-10T18:29:38Z")

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No, one agent told her to leave.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/336 "2026-01-10T18:33:15Z")

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Is Good’s wife an officer?  
If not, then how could he possibly be referring to her?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/337 "2026-01-10T18:42:06Z")

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[https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/07/shooting-south-minneapolis-ice-agents-federal-operation](https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/07/shooting-south-minneapolis-ice-agents-federal-operation)

> “Some of them were leaving, and they just went around her, but ICE gave her orders to leave, while at the same time, another ICE person said, ‘Get out of the car,’ and he reached for her door handle. And then there was an ICE agent in front of her vehicle. So it was difficult for her to leave, as she’d been ordered to do,” Callenson said.

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**Author:** ![Meatwater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meatwater/32/20074_2.png) [@Meatwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatwater)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/338 "2026-01-10T18:42:56Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> And this brings up one of my chief complaints about law enforcement in general: we, as a society, demand that untrained civilians in these situations remain calm and follow instructions exactly.
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> But we also fully expect trained professionals to panic and escalate the situation.
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> Seems backwards to me.

This is always what irks me. In times of active war, military service members could not get away with acting like these buffoons. It was their duty to deescalate every situation, especially with unarmed civilians.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/339 "2026-01-10T18:51:14Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> [Renee Good killed by ICE agent in Minneapolis | MPR News](https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/07/shooting-south-minneapolis-ice-agents-federal-operation)

The video you linked to shows an officer telling her to get out of the car.

[In this video](https://www.facebook.com/NYPost/videos/renee-nicole-goods-wife-screams-drive-baby-drive-just-seconds-before-ice-agent-s/909033314882081/) Her wife can be heard yelling “drive baby drive”.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/340 "2026-01-10T19:01:35Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Her wife can be heard yelling “drive baby drive”.

Which is neither a crime nor a capital crime – neither the yelling _nor_ the driving.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/341 "2026-01-10T19:03:21Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Which is neither a crime nor a capital crime – neither the yelling _nor_ the driving.

I responded to the evidence that she was told to leave. She was clearly told to get out of the car. The person yelling at her to leave was not an ICE agent. It was her wife.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/342 "2026-01-10T19:03:47Z")

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My statement stands.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/343 "2026-01-10T19:05:53Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> I’ve been pulled over a fair number of times in over 50+ years of driving. Some with an officer standing in front of my car. The first thing I did was put the car in park and turn the engine off. When asked to get out of the car I got out of the car. Sometimes I got a ticket.
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> YMMV

While the few things that one could argue _are in common_ between this story and your anecdote are marginally interesting, I think the _entire universe of factors that are radically different_ between the two stories is orders of magnitude more important.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/344 "2026-01-10T19:13:26Z")

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Watch the videos.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/345 "2026-01-10T19:21:25Z")

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**Moderating** : This is getting ridiculous. Please repost the video in question and the timestamp of your point. Otherwise you collectively are just wasting everyone else’s time.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/346 "2026-01-10T19:25:32Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Otherwise you collectively are just wasting everyone else’s time.

And to that point, how can we be certain that it was ICE ordering Good to get out of here and not the residents demanding ICE get out of their neighborhood?  
(Which even if it was ICE the usual suspects will assert it was not.)

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/347 "2026-01-10T19:26:30Z")

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She couldn’t have been going more than 2 mph at any point. Unless the ICE creep was using a walker, he could easily have gotten away. In any event, the gunshots coming from the side were clearly unnecessary and makes this a murder. It’s been disgusting how the right wing has played this up and made her into an evil caricature.

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**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/348 "2026-01-10T19:27:35Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> The nonsense about having to make “split-second life or death” decisions is just their excuse for killing people “just in case”.

I would agree that the split-second life or death line is overused and needs to be carefully examined. In the case of George Floyd, for example, it’s hard to see how 9 1/2 minutes can be called a split second. We need the police but, they need competent and independent oversight.

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