# The ICE shootings in Minneapolis (1/7/2026)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461 "2026-01-08T05:32:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/389 "2026-01-10T21:06:55Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> It’s difficult to get trainees when there is a politically motivated campaign to harass them. ICE has been around in 2002 but suddenly deporting illegal aliens is political.

“Suddenly?” Like it was a random act of nature?

No, MAGA, the right wing, and Trump made deportations a political flashpoint for political reasons. All of that, and the death of Renee Good is on them

I’m not as inclined to absolve the shooter as @PhillyGuy is, but he’s right that this goes to the very top. Trump and Noem deliberately created the environment where something like this was inevitable.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/390 "2026-01-10T21:08:59Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> He was filming her license plate . . . which should send a chill down everyone’s spine given the possible implications.

This is absurd. What are the possible implications? The license plate number is the first thing an officer looks at when pulling a car over. It allows them to check if a vehicle is stolen or the owner is wanted. Which is what would have been done had she simple followed instructions.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/391 "2026-01-10T21:09:00Z")

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Yeah, they shot themselves in the foot when they started deporting people who aren’t illegal aliens.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/392 "2026-01-10T21:10:37Z")

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Under some circumstances, in basketball, you can ‘draw the foul’ and then shoot:

> Drawing a foul in basketball means an offensive player creates contact with a defender, leading the defender to commit a foul, often by initiating contact with their body (shoulder, legs) while driving or shooting to get free throws, exploit weak defense, and put opponents in foul trouble

Law enforcement isn’t basketball, though. Ross didn’t get to ‘draw the foul’ (while videotaping it), and then shoot. It is unambiguously and inarguably (despite your best efforts) **against** DoJ policy.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/393 "2026-01-10T21:10:50Z")

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If someone thinks killing someone else is an acceptable response to being stupid, well…that is stupid, considering that a certain Trump official is insisting that Venezuela is an island that we have successfully blockaded.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/394 "2026-01-10T21:12:00Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> The license plate number is the first thing an officer looks at when pulling a car over. It allows them to check if a vehicle is stolen or the owner is wanted.

ICE agents are not fucking police officers.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/395 "2026-01-10T21:12:40Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If someone thinks killing someone else is an acceptable response to being stupid,

Running into an officer with a 4000 lb car is the stupid part. Getting out of the car and dealing with situation would be the smart part.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/396 "2026-01-10T21:13:32Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Which is what would have been done had she simple followed instructions.

Whether or not you view the instructions as ‘simple’ has no bearing whatsoever on the issue of whether or not those instructions properly carried the force of law.

A person being armed does not inherently constitute legal authority. It’s very, very likely that ICE had no authority to attempt to detain Ms. Good:

> **[What is ICE and what powers do its agents have to use force?](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp80ljjd5rwo)**
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> The immigration agency is under scrutiny following the fatal shooting of Minneapolis woman Renee Nicole Good.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/397 "2026-01-10T21:14:34Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> ICE agents are not fucking police officers.

They are Federal Law Enforcement Officers.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/398 "2026-01-10T21:14:48Z")

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Good thing that didn’t happen.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/399 "2026-01-10T21:14:49Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Running into an officer with a 4000 lb car is the stupid part.

That he miraculously reacted to by . . . walking to the victims car like nothing happened to him, because HE WAS NOT RUN INTO.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/400 "2026-01-10T21:15:06Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Running into an officer with a 4000 lb car is the stupid part. Getting out of the car and dealing with situation would be the smart part.

It’s hard to make the argument that your idea is smarter than the ICE officer getting out of the way – an action that would have required a single step.

Though, to be fair, his use of the cell phone to videotape the encounter may have distracted him materially.

ETA: in your eyes, Ms. Good did something stupid. How do you rate ‘ill-advised’ when compared to something being inarguably and unambiguously against the LEO’s employer’s policies?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/401 "2026-01-10T21:16:04Z")

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No one was hit by a car. Why do you keep repeating this falsity?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/402 "2026-01-10T21:16:48Z")

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And they’re job is to what again? Would you kindly provide citations that show what ICE is authorized to do?

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/403 "2026-01-10T21:17:19Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> No one was hit by a car. Why do you keep repeating this falsity?

His video documents it.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/404 "2026-01-10T21:18:18Z")

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No. It really doesn’t. Me spilling my beer at the ball park doesn’t inherently mean that somebody tripped me.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/405 "2026-01-10T21:19:18Z")

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His video documents that he almost dropped his phone.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/406 "2026-01-10T21:20:17Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> What are the possible implications?

That ~~ICE~~ Trump’s gestapo is collecting the names of ~~terrorists~~ American citizens for purposes unknow but easy to conclude why.

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**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/407 "2026-01-10T21:20:28Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> His video documents it.

Not that I have seen from several angles.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/408 "2026-01-10T21:21:39Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> No, MAGA, the right wing, and Trump made deportations a political flashpoint for political reasons. All of that, and the death of Renee Good is on them

Trump’s election was driving by Biden’s open border policy which was not addressed by Harris’s campaign. Particularly since she was the “Border Czar”.

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