# The ICE shootings in Minneapolis (1/7/2026)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461 "2026-01-08T05:32:52Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/633 "2026-01-15T09:37:09Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> What they see is a bunch of terrorists who hate them and America. [ICE members are] cheered on by their family and friends. Their leaders praise them and tell them they can do no wrong. They got the job because they aren’t the type to be thoughtful or nuanced.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I think that’s quite the understatement. Based on the evidence, they’re hiring bigoted Trumpist morons who receive virtually no training and have no accountability.

I think you’re both correct, but I’ll add one more thing: they were the middle school bullies who enjoyed terrorizing smaller and weaker kids. They had to grow out of that when they began high school, where at 13 or 14, they were the smaller and weaker kids, compared to 17 and 18-year-olds. By the time they got to the top grade, other interests prevailed (playing sports, girls, scoring beer, girls, getting a car, girls).

But they never totally lost their taste for bullying. Now, they’re offered a chance to return to those days of middle school, when they could bully with impunity, where teachers and principals dismissed their acts with “boys will be boys,” and where beating up the smaller and weak was fun.

So, they get to return to those days, only this time with guns and pepper spray and flash-bangs, and an Administration that will dismiss their acts, just like those teachers and principals did. Only this time the dismissal will be, “domestic terrorists will be domestic terrorists, so patriots must be patriots.”

I don’t know how patriotic ICE members are. I guess a few are. But I think most of them joined up, just to be a middle-school bully again, so they can kick the shit out of the smaller and weaker again, without consequences. Just like in the old days! It was fun then, and with the added weaponry, it’ll be even more fun now.

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> > [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> > The amazing thing, to me, is how ICE can see how they are so thoroughly reviled by their own countrymen and yet zealously keep doing what they are doing.
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> What they see is a bunch of terrorists who hate them and America.

As I said in another comment, the most important takeaway from the kerfuffle over the “one of us, all of yours” slogan they displayed in their recent media presentation is not that it happens to mirror, whether deliberately or inadvertently, similar messaging from previous fascist regimes.

The critical takeaway is the _psychology_ that the slogan reveals. The historicity, or lack thereof, is interesting but ultimately irrelevant. We must recognize the _mindset._

Us vs You, across an unmistakable and impregnable boundary. There are those who matter, and those who are worthless and disposable. On their side, those who must have power, and on the other side, everyone else from whom power must be taken by any means necessary, separated by a razor-sharp, rock-hard wall.

And that answers the question above. They literally could not possibly give less of a shit if a bunch of shrieking vermin are complaining and condemning them. Hell, it’s practically a medal of accomplishment.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/635 "2026-01-15T13:34:02Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Trump admin made this problem but will claim they are suppressing an insurrection in which all citizens can be scooped up and not just immigrants.

They’re already scooping up citizens (and dumping them elsewhere) and also shooting, gassing, and throwing flash-bang grenades at them.

But, yeah, let’s not give them any pretext to go overboard!

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/636 "2026-01-15T13:35:41Z")

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> [@nazi fuckhead](#):
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> […]no one—no city official, no state official, no illegal alien, no leftist agitator or domestic insurrectionist—can prevent you from fulfilling your legal obligations and duties,” Miller said.

That’s what they told the guards in the Bastille, too.

Shit’s about to go down hard if Trump keeps this up.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/637 "2026-01-15T13:42:02Z")

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Not sure if this should go here, but I didn’t want to start a new thread.

> # ICE agent shoots man in leg as Minneapolis protests flare
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> _Department of Homeland Security alleged that an individual who came into the United States illegally from Venezuela in 2022 had attempted to evade arrest and was shot._
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> Updated
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> **January 15, 2026 at 2:56 a.m. EST**
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> [https://wapo.st/](https://wapo.st/)

> MINNEAPOLIS — A federal law enforcement officer in Minneapolis shot a person in the leg Wednesday night, the Department of Homeland Security said, as tensions between protesters and immigration enforcement officers continued to flare throughout the city following the fatal shooting of 37-year-old [Renée Good](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2026/01/09/ice-shooting-victim-minneapolis/) last week.
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> In [a statement,](https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2011632198000976086?s=46&t=vSc28c4jRnGy3UkOwCbIQQ) DHS said the shooting Wednesday involved an individual from Venezuela who came to the United States in 2022 and was in the country illegally. The person attempted to evade arrest by driving their vehicle away from federal law enforcement officers, crashing it into a parked car and then running away on foot, the agency said.
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> As an officer caught up with the person, two other individuals began attacking the officer with a snow shovel and broom handle, according to DHS. The person who was fleeing then “began striking the officer with a shovel or a broom stick,” the agency said, adding that both the officer and the person who was shot were being treated at a hospital.
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> The Washington Post could not immediately confirm details of the incident or the identity of the person shot.
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> In [a statement](https://x.com/CityMinneapolis/status/2011646171807351040), the City of Minneapolis said it was an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent who had shot the man and [urged the agency](https://x.com/CityMinneapolis/status/2011646173640343775) to “leave the city and state immediately.”  
> …

Maybe this thread title should be changed to “ICE shooting **S** in Minneapolis.” If there are any more _(gee, do ya think?)_ I’m going to ask a mod to ask the OP if that would be okay.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/638 "2026-01-15T13:49:38Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Maybe this thread title should be changed to “ICE shooting **S** in Minneapolis.” If there are any more _(gee, do ya think?)_ I’m going to ask a mod to ask the OP if that would be okay.

Done. ☹

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/639 "2026-01-15T13:56:06Z")

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This latest shooting was about six blocks from our building.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/640 "2026-01-15T13:57:43Z")

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I’m really wondering at what specific mechanism could reign in the ICE terror. And how soon.

I doubt anything will get Congress to act. Stunningly shocking that there are not any Rs in Congress with ANY MINIMAL sense of decency.

So I’m hoping for favorable federal court rulings in cases initiated by the states - which get rapidly escalated up to the Supremes. It surprises me that I have not read more about requests for and decisions regarding emergency injunctions or something. I would think this a matter that warranted prompt action. Yet the ICE-instigated terror has been going on for months.

Also trying to get my head around how any R who is not totally batshit insane MAGA feels about this. Even if someone thinks SOMETHING should be done about immigration (Hell, I have long wished for sensible and comprehensive immigration reform), how intentionally oblivious or fucked in the head do they have to be to not say, “Gee, this is really going too far.”

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/641 "2026-01-15T14:00:22Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> This latest shooting was about six blocks from our building.

Actually, now that I look at the map on the NYT article, it was nowhere near us. Bad info on FB earlier.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/642 "2026-01-15T14:01:22Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> I’m really wondering at what specific mechanism could reign in the ICE terror.

Walz should [activate his national guard](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-walz-should-activate-the-minnesota-guard-to-protect-his-citizens/) to protect his citizens from this assault.

(also, “rein”)

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/643 "2026-01-15T14:03:14Z")

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Thanks for the typo correction. I fall short of your hope/expectation of armed conflict as the optimal immediate response.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/644 "2026-01-15T14:04:41Z")

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We’re already in an armed conflict, but only one side is shooting, while the other side is protesting.

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I don’t think there’s an easy way out, but the protests are working. They’re working because they’re turning the public against ICE, and revealing the criminality and brutality of ICE, but they’re also frequently forcing ICE to back off in real time and go find easier targets.

And it’s impossible to know for sure, but I expect this is having a serious psychological effect on ICE agents. Some of them aren’t committed Nazis, some of them just needed the paycheck… some of them will already be having reservations about what they’re doing, and being yelled at by peaceful protesters all day will impact how they see what they’re doing.

I think protesters are on the right track and need to continue.

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Blanche is another one who is _evil,_ but _not stupid._

He used the word “insurrection” in that post. Let’s remember that an “insurrection” is an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act

> **[The Insurrection Act, explained](https://protectdemocracy.org/work/insurrection-act-explained/)**
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> The Insurrection Act permits the president to use the federal military to suppress “any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy."

If Trump – as we’ve long feared – declares _any of these_ situations to be insurrections, he can put the regular military into the streets.

This … is yet another line that may be being crossed before our very eyes, and a pretty sizeable step toward worst case scenarios.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/647 "2026-01-15T14:29:07Z")

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Michael, you can’t just say “insurrection”.

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Blanche is another one who is _evil,_ but _not stupid._
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> He used the word “insurrection” in that post. Let’s remember that an “insurrection” is an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act

And now it seems Trump himself is using the word.

[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-threatens-use-insurrection-act-minnesota-2026-01-15/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-threatens-use-insurrection-act-minnesota-2026-01-15/)

This is a Reuters article but every major and minor news outfit is reporting this this morning.

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He’s also sending mixed messages:

> President Donald Trump warned Thursday that he would invoke the Insurrection Act if people in Minnesota don’t obey the law and continue attacking federal agents there.

> **[Trump threatens to invoke Insurrection Act in Minnesota if agitators keep...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-threatens-invoke-insurrection-act-minnesota-agitators-keep-attacking-federal-officers)**
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> President Donald Trump said Thursday that he could invoke the Insurrection Act if people don't obey the law in Minnesota and continue attacking federal agents.

Seems an odd law, but some _are_ likely to follow it 😉

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> And it’s impossible to know for sure, but I expect this is having a serious psychological effect on ICE agents. Some of them aren’t committed Nazis, some of them just needed the paycheck… some of them will already be having reservations about what they’re doing, and being yelled at by peaceful protesters all day will impact how they see what they’re doing.

This morning my wife said her hope was that at some point - might be decades - the shooter will realize the horror he committed. I don’t know that that will happen. They seem to have done a good job of hiring and inspiring heartless bullies. I sure haven’t seen any reports of any ICE employees quitting…

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I think you’re both correct, but I’ll add one more thing: they were the middle school bullies who enjoyed terrorizing smaller and weaker kids. They had to grow out of that when they began high school, where at 13 or 14, they were the smaller and weaker kids, compared to 17 and 18-year-olds. By the time they got to the top grade, other interests prevailed (playing sports, girls, scoring beer, girls, getting a car, girls).

I haven’t yet taken the time to develop the theory, but I think you’re spot-on about this. There’s a personality type that believes at its core that might makes right. If you intellectualize that foundational belief, you get all the things that drive the current Republican party. It’s a group of individuals who believe that if you aren’t getting what you want, and you have the strength (or smarts, or connections, or whatever) to get it, then you (or your corporation) ought to be able to take it.

ICE is one of many arms of government where the promise of employment is “you can finally just do what you want, and no one will send you to detention because they’re not strong enough to make you.”

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> I haven’t yet taken the time to develop the theory, but I think you’re spot-on about this. There’s a personality type that believes at its core that might makes right.

They may learn that strength in numbers is mightier than they are.

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