# The ICE shootings in Minneapolis (1/7/2026)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461 "2026-01-08T05:32:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/673 "2026-01-15T18:45:03Z")

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I was just reading that CNN article too. Gross.

They are just barely veiling it at this point.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/674 "2026-01-15T18:48:14Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> (also, “rein”)

Thank you.

> [@Magiver](#):
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> They are Federal Law Enforcement Officers.

You appear to have spelt “enfarcement” incorrectly.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/675 "2026-01-15T18:56:47Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Not to mention the very real-world example of all the lower-level Nazis who cried “I was just following orders!” after the war.

I think the “I was just following orders” thing is something that protesters and news outlets and everyone needs to be reminding ICE agents about. They need to know that, despite what your boss tells you to do, if it’s illegal you’ll still be prosecuted for it. And prosecutors need to know that we’ll stand behind them when they start doing just that.  
Remember, ICE, the only person protecting you is Trump and he won’t be around forever.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/676 "2026-01-15T19:07:01Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I think the “I was just following orders” thing is something that protesters and news outlets and everyone needs to be reminding ICE agents about. They need to know that, despite what your boss tells you to do, if it’s illegal you’ll still be prosecuted for it.

Well, some politicians recently made a video reminding the military that they should not follow unlawful orders, and that’s not going very well for those politicians.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> They are just barely veiling it at this point.

Just barely veiling it? trump has bemoaned why we don’t get immigrants from ‘good’ countries, meaning lily-white countries. Various branches of the government are coming out with slogans that are clearly aping past fascist / Nazi sayings and propaganda. ICE agents are allowed to detain people on the street who just ‘look’ like they could be undocumented. Oh, and the recent suspension of all immigration visas for 70-something countries. I don’t think I’m one to be sensationalist in my opinions, but this administration seems have turned full-on white nationalist.

We are really living in an insane timeline right now.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/677 "2026-01-15T19:10:14Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> trump has asked why we don’t get immigrants from ‘good’ countries, meaning lily-white countries.

That is a perfect example of barely veiling it. They’re not quite but _almost_ saying, bluntly, that they need to make the country more white.

That’s what “barely veiling it” means.

I’m not sure how it would be different if they just said it plainly. Maybe we’re at the point already where it wouldn’t change anything if they did.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/678 "2026-01-15T19:16:46Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> This morning my wife said her hope was that at some point - might be decades - the shooter will realize the horror he committed.

Probably not. I hope he will go to prison for his crime. He may well realize the horror of spending the next 30 years in a cell. And throughout his sentence he will complain that he is the real victim. He will never understand that he was wrong.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/679 "2026-01-15T19:19:04Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> That is a perfect example of barely veiling it. They’re not quite but _almost_ saying, bluntly, that they need to make the country more white.
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> That’s what “barely veiling it” means.

OK. But that veil is pretty damn thin, and it ain’t hiding anything from anybody.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/680 "2026-01-15T19:20:54Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> But that veil is pretty damn thin, and it ain’t hiding anything from anybody.

I agree completely, hence why it’s barely a veil at all. It’s like a clear plastic veil at this point.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/681 "2026-01-15T19:23:46Z")

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Elon has already said the quiet part out loud and caused no conservatives to turn away from him. He’s also amplified anti-“globalist” propaganda and did an actual Nazi salute and lost no support from those who should know better.

Of I could be wrong about losing absolutely _no_ support since no one can vote against him. But it would be on brand for the party who lost no votes after 1/6.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/682 "2026-01-15T19:38:32Z")

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I just keep telling myself Hitler failed. The Nazis were defeated. Many were tried/convicted as war criminals.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/683 "2026-01-15T19:54:37Z")

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Hitler probably led to 50 million deaths\* though. I hope we’re nowhere near anything on the Hitler scale.

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war caused deaths to civilians, military and those that died due to starvation and lackbof medical treatment in Europe and Africa was somewhere around 50 million, maybe another 25 million in the Pacific war.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/684 "2026-01-15T19:55:02Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> The Nazis were defeated.

They lasted 12 awful years though, where they had complete control over Germany.

Let’s hope that none of the fascist MAGA crowd takes complete control. These ICE shootings are making it clear how dangerous they are. They won’t be slipping in the back door now.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/685 "2026-01-15T20:03:46Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Yep. Check out the comments on the Krugman article: people are getting _organized._

_I’m gonna tell you fascists_

_You may be surprised_

_The people of this world are getting organized_

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VwcKwGS7OSQ/hqdefault.jpg "Woody Guthrie~ All You Fascists Bound To Lose") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwcKwGS7OSQ)

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/686 "2026-01-15T20:25:10Z")

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Jonathan Ross is probably on Tor bragging about killing a lezzy .

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/687 "2026-01-15T20:43:45Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Trump is probably on course already to have a national uprising to handle; invoking the Insurrection Act will seal the deal.

Sadly have to agree with you and the others who responded to my post. This will likely get much worse and more violent before it is over. It will probably be limited to metropolitan areas in blue/purple states since it appears the people in rural areas and red states are pretty happy with what is happening.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/688 "2026-01-15T20:56:53Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> It will probably be limited to metropolitan areas in blue/purple states since it appears the people in rural areas and red states are pretty happy with what is happening.

I don’t think that’s actually true. The red staters don’t mind the violence in other places, but would not be happy if it happened in their own locale. And I think Trump and his handlers know that enough to not send thugs to red states and urban areas.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/689 "2026-01-15T21:22:22Z")

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Yup. They could round up brown people and terrorize neighborhoods anywhere in the country.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/690 "2026-01-15T21:42:15Z")

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Here’s me hoping.

I’m in a dark red state it probably the darkest red area.

I promise not everyone is ok with this crap down here. I hate it. Many people hate it.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/691 "2026-01-15T22:06:19Z")

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This week, for the first time in my almost-51 years, I’m concluding that the chance of me dying in a civil war is _not_ 0%.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/692 "2026-01-15T22:29:33Z")

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I’d hate to see people refugee-ing from a proud state. Probably to go back to/with nothing left when it ends.

Running from war zones is not shameful. I’d just hate they’d have to.

Dammit, Trump. This ain’t the way it supposed to be.

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