# The ICE shootings in Minneapolis (1/7/2026) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461 "2026-01-08T05:32:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Pazu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pazu/32/15522_2.png) [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/773 "2026-01-18T02:01:14Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > The same thing that happens if you have ID. A beating and a ride to the cages Plus they’ve probably stolen your ID at that point. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/774 "2026-01-18T02:36:18Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > If i was at high risk of being stopped by ICE (I’m not) High risk meaning you’re not a middle-aged white woman driving an SUV with stuffies in a suburban area? Because that seems to be one of the high-risk categories now. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/775 "2026-01-18T14:16:52Z")
I think this belongs here, as it could presage more shootings… 😟 > # Pentagon readies 1,500 soldiers to possibly deploy to Minnesota, officials say > > _Troops with the Army’s 11th Airborne Division in Alaska are preparing after President Donald Trump’s Insurrection Act threat, according to defense officials._ > > [https://wapo.st/4pIFqTG](https://wapo.st/4pIFqTG) > The Pentagon has ordered about 1,500 active-duty soldiers to prepare for a possible deployment to Minnesota, defense officials told The Washington Post late Saturday, after [President Donald Trump threatened to invoke the Insurrection](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2026/01/15/ice-minnesota-minneapolis-venezuela-man-shooting/) Act in response to unrest there. > > The soldiers are assigned to two infantry battalions with the Army’s 11th Airborne Division, which is based in Alaska and **specializes in cold-weather operations.** > … My bold. > … > The White House said in a statement that it’s typical for the Pentagon “to be prepared for **any decision the President may or may not make**.” Spokespeople for the Defense Department did not respond to requests for comment. The development was reported earlier by ABC News. > … 🙄 Good luck with that… ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/776 "2026-01-18T14:19:42Z")
I wonder whether “will no one rid me of these troublesome protesters” is sufficiently specific so as to be understood as an order. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/777 "2026-01-18T15:32:49Z")
Too many of them are not looking for orders-they are looking for excuses to do what they already want to do. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/778 "2026-01-18T16:37:43Z")
The “Minneapolis Massacre” will probably have the same effect as did the Boston Massacre. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/779 "2026-01-18T19:26:26Z")
So are the commanders of the 11th Airborne prepared to give orders to the troops to shoot Minnesota’s National Guard? ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/780 "2026-01-18T20:41:36Z")
Trump wanting people to be put to death for reminding the military that they don’t have to follow illegal orders suggests to me that he’s got some illegal orders on deck. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/781 "2026-01-18T20:48:27Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Trump wanting people to be put to death for reminding the military that they don’t have to follow illegal orders Did he actually say that? I can’t keep track of all the reasons he should be immediately impeached. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/782 "2026-01-18T20:51:00Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > > [@DWMarch](#): > > > > Trump wanting people to be put to death for reminding the military that they don’t have to follow illegal orders > > Did he actually say that? He did accuse Senator Kelly of treason. > Trump called the video “really bad, and dangerous to our Country” and “SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR FROM TRAITORS!!! LOCK THEM UP???” One hour later, Trump posted: “SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR, punishable by DEATH.” [Trump calls Goodlander and other Democrats ‘traitors’ for urging military to defy ‘illegal orders’ | New Hampshire Public Radio](https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2025-11-20/trump-democrats-traitors-death-military-orders-sedition-goodlander) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/783 "2026-01-18T20:54:19Z")
And here: > **[Trump says telling military to refuse illegal orders ‘punishable by death’ -...](https://globalnews.ca/news/11535099/trump-military-democrats-illegal-orders-death/)** > > Trump was responding to a video released by six Democratic lawmakers who served in the U.S military and intelligence community addressing military members. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/784 "2026-01-18T20:55:11Z")
Damn, and Kelly is both a Combat Pilot and Shuttle Pilot along with what happened to his wife Gabby Giffords. I really can’t keep up with the horrific shit that pours forth daily from him. Thanks for the links. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2026, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/785 "2026-01-18T20:57:18Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Damn, and Kelly is both a Combat Pilot and Shuttle Pilot along with what happened to his wife Gabby Giffords. I really can’t keep up with the horrific shit that pours forth daily from him. I’m not sure we’re still supposed to take him “seriously but not literally.” ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/786 "2026-01-19T02:23:03Z")
I heard today on NBC that FBI agents are being temporarily assigned investigate thefts from FBI vehicles in Minnesota. Maybe they can tighten up security for their vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/787 "2026-01-19T02:59:58Z")
One might wonder if those FBI agents are investigating how the fuck FBI agents allowed thefts from FBI vehicles in Minnesota but that way lies madness . . . and other forms of anger. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/788 "2026-01-19T03:41:03Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > it appears the people in rural areas and red states are pretty happy with what is happening. From a very red and quite rural area, if in a blue state: I was out on the main drag yesterday waving a flag and chanting, among other things, Trump Out for Good, along with about one percent of not just that village but the entire county, which contains several. I’ve done that several times this year. Generally we get a mix of honks of approval and thumbs down or middle fingers up with less pleasant noises. I didn’t realize till after I got back home: this time we got the honks of approval, all right, nearly continuously. But, while it’s possible I missed some, I don’t remember this time getting any of the gestures or noises of disapproval. > [@wguy123](#): > > Are we required to carry “our papers” in the US? Theoretically, no. And for most of my life I’d have said just ‘hell no’. And would have had the entire right wing chorusing it along with me (as well as the left.) Hell no, this ain’t normal. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/789 "2026-01-19T14:32:44Z")
I can’t walk the miles that I used to, but I never carried I.D. with me when I did and I don’t do it now when I walk the dog. These fucking goons can come get me. I have been preparing myself to be brave for quite awhile now. But what scares me silly is that my grandkids ride their bikes around the neighborhood. Their parents do not believe that they are in danger, but I’m not as confident as they are. The kids don’t carry I.D’s with them. I’m just petrified. I could only wish to die if I learned any of my loved ones were taken. My grandson would not pass the paper bag test and he’s probably on the spectrum. He is going to be 13 and can’t sleep without dad or mom. He eats very specific foods. I can’t stop my stupid brain from imagining the trauma he would suffer. I don’t know that he would ever get over it. I know I would not. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/790 "2026-01-19T16:07:06Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I can’t stop my stupid brain from imagining the trauma he would suffer. I don’t know that he would ever get over it. I know I would not. It’s especially troubling to me that the suffering that is being inflicted is purely gratuitous. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/791 "2026-01-19T20:17:30Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > The kids don’t carry I.D’s with them. What kind of i.d. would a kid even carry? Their birth certificate? If birthright citizenship is eliminated, how would ANY of us prove we are citizens? To get a passport, you need your birth certificate, right? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/792 "2026-01-19T23:04:42Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > If birthright citizenship is eliminated, how would ANY of us prove we are citizens? Brown paper bag test. Simple. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461.md?page=38) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461.md?page=40)