# The ICE shootings in Minneapolis (1/7/2026) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461 "2026-01-08T05:32:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/933 "2026-01-24T23:50:18Z")
Sooner or later, a real domestic terrorist is really going to assassinate some ICE officials … and I don’t think I’ll give a fuck. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/934 "2026-01-24T23:54:08Z")
It’s not terrorism to fight against an occupying force if you’re attacking the units used to occupy and not, say, their families. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/935 "2026-01-24T23:58:55Z")
Like ‘Communist,’ or ‘Socialist,’ or ‘woke,’ to them the definition of ‘terrorist’ is, ‘Whatever I don’t like.’ Threats to their families or even death has nothing to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/936 "2026-01-25T00:01:16Z")
I know, but he said “a real domestic terrorist” and he meant someone who was fighting back against ICE so I disagreed with his characterization. Terror is what ICE is doing. If someone started fighting back, it would be self defense and/or defense of their community. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/937 "2026-01-25T00:04:20Z")
The problem is that it’s a catch-22. If people don’t resist ICE with force, then ICE keeps acting with impunity, if they resist with what you suggested, then Trump, MAGA and media promptly say “Aha! violence against ICE, ICE is therefore justified, time for harder crackdown!” It’s a no-win. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/938 "2026-01-25T00:06:02Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Terror is what ICE is doing. If someone started fighting back, it would be self defense and/or defense of their community. As the saying goes, “terrorist is what the big army calls the little army”. Or the individual. ICE is an arm of the state, so _nothing_ they do is terrorism, while anything anyone does to fight back, passively resist or simply exist against their will is “terrorism”. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/939 "2026-01-25T00:06:27Z")
Slowed and close up from lady in ink’s video. Graphic. He never holds a weapon. > **[Reddit - The heart of the internet](https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qm0kc9/a_stabilized_zoomed_in_slow_motion_version/)** ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/940 "2026-01-25T00:08:02Z")
That angle also shows that the guy who shot him clearly sees that the man on the ground had his gun taken away and was disarmed. The murderer moves to get a better angle and pushes his fellow terrorists out of the way. It’s clear that he was just itching to find an excuse to murder the guy, and maybe he thought seeing a gun (even if it was taken away from the guy) was the excuse he needed. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/941 "2026-01-25T00:09:41Z")
Also, he knew that even if he murdered the guy with 5 different video views of him murdering, the administration would have his back and make up a bullshit story within 15 minutes. Also, he’s also probably banking on getting a cool million dollar go-fund me account. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/942 "2026-01-25T00:13:13Z")
I don’t think it’s possible that even someone as delusional as Stephen Miller believes all this bullshit. He’s making all kinds of extreme statements for which there is exactly zero evidence, and in fact ample evidence for the exact opposite. Someone should ask this Nazi how someone with no criminal record and in fact no encounters with law enforcement beyond some traffic tickets, and who worked as a caregiver at a VA hospital, was a “domestic terrorist”. But I guess when you’re a true Nazi evidence is irrelevant. Back in the 30s and during the war, German Nazis needed no evidence to support the atrocities they were committing. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/943 "2026-01-25T00:19:53Z")
There’s a candlelight vigil all across the country today at 7pm Central time. People are lighting candles on street corners. [https://www.instagram.com/p/DT6Gpn0kfnc/?igsh=MTBpa3FiY3ZvNWNldQ==](https://www.instagram.com/p/DT6Gpn0kfnc/?igsh=MTBpa3FiY3ZvNWNldQ==) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/944 "2026-01-25T00:29:25Z")
Alex Pretti already has a gofundme with over $130k > **[Donate to Alex Pretti is an American Hero, organized by Keith Edwards](https://www.gofundme.com/f/alex-pretti-is-an-american-hero)** > > On January 24, 2026, Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a Minneapolis resident and American citizen wa… Keith Edwards needs your support for Alex Pretti is an American Hero ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/945 "2026-01-25T00:29:46Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Here’s a slowed down clip that shows he was disarmed when the first shot was fired. “Post unavailable” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/946 "2026-01-25T00:35:27Z")
[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbrzaoMUsAAdx6_?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbrzaoMUsAAdx6_?format=jpg&name=900x900) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/947 "2026-01-25T00:37:40Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > “Post unavailable” Try the link **[from here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/939)**. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/948 "2026-01-25T00:46:41Z")
According to Reddit, National Guard apparently arriving in Minneapolis - people in r/law are wondering whose side they will be on (with some voting that they will try to be a shield between the two groups.) > **[Reddit - The heart of the internet](https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qm2kb1/minnesota_national_guard_arriving_in_minneapolis/)** ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/949 "2026-01-25T00:48:41Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > According to Reddit, National Guard apparently arriving in Minneapolis - people in r/law are wondering whose side they will be on (with some voting that they will try to be a shield between the two groups.) You mean like in a civil war? This is just bound to get the Great Orange One the Nobel Peace Prize! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/950 "2026-01-25T00:49:46Z")
The national guard are there to protect federal buildings so that federal agents can be out brutalizing people and not defending their buildings ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/951 "2026-01-25T00:53:48Z")
Is that official or what you think? I thought the Governor activated them? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/952 "2026-01-25T01:01:03Z")
Looks like they’re working both sides: > **[Minneapolis shooting: National Guard activated after man killed by Border Patrol](https://www.fox9.com/news/minneapolis-shooting-national-guard-called-assist-after-latest-incident-federal-agents)** > > Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey has asked for assistance from the Minnesota National Guard after Saturday morning's fatal shooting of a 37-year-old man by a Border Patrol agent during a targeted immigration enforcement operation. > [@](#): > > The National Guard told FOX 9 they have two missions: The request from Minneapolis to help the Minneapolis Police Department, and a request from Hennepin County to support at the Whipple Federal Building. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461.md?page=46) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461.md?page=48)