# The ICE shootings in Minneapolis (1/7/2026) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461 "2026-01-08T05:32:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1173 "2026-01-27T17:10:41Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Determining the kill shot shouldn’t be a factor in the guilt of the entire crew. If someone is killed during a bank robbery, the getaway driver – who remained in the car and never even entered the bank – can be charged with murder. In the current case, anyone who participated in the attack on Pretti should be charged. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1174 "2026-01-27T17:47:56Z")
Bovino knows who the murderers are because he says he restationed them for their own safety. The murderers are still working and presumably carrying firearms. Murder is a state offense so maybe even with the inevitable pardon they could be tried. I can dream. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1175 "2026-01-27T17:57:38Z")
LMFAO! Poor witty bitty buwwy man. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1176 "2026-01-27T18:00:58Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > They’re just adopting the new party line. I think you misspelled “lie.” ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1177 "2026-01-27T18:15:48Z")
Edit: NM, saw the mod note after I replied ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1178 "2026-01-27T18:19:43Z")
> [@Disinfectus](#): > > Miller isn’t going anywhere. He’s Trump’s right hand man. And that “hand” is going right up Trump’s backside, making his mouth move. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1179 "2026-01-27T18:40:43Z")
Bovino’s been cut off from his social media accounts. > **[Bovino Really is Out; CNN Reports He's Been Cut Off from Social Media](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/1/26/2365676/-Bovino-Really-is-Out-CNN-Reports-He-s-Been-Cut-Off-from-Social-Media)** > > In this social-media-mad world, public figures live and die by their access. Remember how Trump fumed when he got cut off? Well, it’s happening to Bovino: DHS suspends Bovino's access to his social media accounts, source says The Department of... Of course, it could just be that someone put his phone on top of the fridge. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1180 "2026-01-27T19:39:07Z")
> [@Disinfectus](#): > > Miller isn’t going anywhere. He’s Trump’s right hand man. I agree. They are not remotely comparable. Noem is very expendable/easily replaceable and Miller is not. If anything ever happens to Miller then that would be noteworthy. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1181 "2026-01-27T19:46:12Z")
The union that Pretti belonged to is demanding Noem and Miller get fired. > **[AFGE demands resignations of Noem, Miller following member’s slaying](https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2026/01/afge-demands-resignations-noem-miller-following-members-slaying/410986/)** > > The nation’s largest federal employee union said key leaders involved in the Trump administration’s crackdown on immigration and dissent “defamed” VA nurse Alex Pretti by erroneously describing him as a “domestic terrorist.” Republicans are starting to ask for there to be a real investigation. I think they sense that this is going to cost them big time in the midterms if they don’t scramble to pretend that they were outraged at ICE all along. > **[Republican calls are growing for a deeper investigation into fatal...](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/republican-calls-are-growing-for-a-deeper-investigation-into-fatal-minneapolis-shooting-of-alex-pretti)** > > Administration officials are firm in their defense of the hard-line immigration enforcement tactics in Minneapolis and they fault Democrats in the state along with local law enforcement for not working with them. My WAG… This is a search for scapegoats. Bovino now, likely Noem later. Maybe Miller but I think that’s too much to hope for. And then probably give up the people involved in the Good and Pretti murders, hold them up as bad apples, while trying to still keep ICE going (if maybe a bit quieter) to ensure their base that they are still trying to protect the country against “invaders”. Sacrifice a few liabilities in the midst of damage control. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1182 "2026-01-27T20:08:02Z")
This would greatly depress the morale of the worst ICE and CBP etc. goons. These are mostly cowards - and if they don’t think the powers that be have their backs, they’ll be less likely to behave terribly. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1183 "2026-01-27T20:24:38Z")
You know what would really motivate them to behave less terribly is to put a bunch of their fucking asses into prison. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1184 "2026-01-27T20:34:07Z")
Absolutely. The most I think we can hope for, though, is maybe the shooters in these cases. **Maybe**. And not the other people who enabled, supported, and covered for them. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1185 "2026-01-27T20:51:04Z")
Our senior Senator from Kansas is Jerry Moran. He’s a milquetoast, refusing to say anything controversial and voting GOP 100% of the time. Yesterday, however, he actually broke his silence and joined the Susan Collins Club of Concerned Senators. From his Facebook page: > I am deeply troubled by the shootings in Minneapolis involving federal agents. Our Constitution provides citizens protection from the government. We have a right to free speech, to peaceably assemble and to bear arms. It’s not much, but it’s something. Of course, he won’t actually DO anything, but it’s a small start. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1186 "2026-01-27T20:57:15Z")
> **Post continuing already modded hijack** > > > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > > Okay, I just came up with a new one: > > > > T-MONK > > > > (pronounced _“TEE-munk”_) > > > > **T** rump **M** oves **O** n to **N** ext **K** ill > > ## TINK > > Trump Incites Next Kill ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1187 "2026-01-27T21:02:03Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > If someone is killed during a bank robbery, the getaway driver – who remained in the car and never even entered the bank – can be charged with murder. In the current case, anyone who participated in the attack on Pretti should be charged. Qualified immunity would like to have a word with you about that. [How Police Use Qualified Immunity to Get Away with Misconduct and Violence](https://www.naacpldf.org/qi-police-misconduct/) ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1188 "2026-01-27T21:04:14Z")
Bovino’s being throw under the bus, and deservedly so, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s been looking for an out anyway. This is a guy who’s spent his entire career making a government salary, and I imagine he’s looking forward to scoring a lucrative book deal or a sweet gig as a Fox News commentator. I give him another month or so before he leaves the Border Patrol altogether. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1189 "2026-01-27T21:09:59Z")
The dude was having the time of his life doing the nazi cosplay thing and telling people that if they kept calling him a nazi he was going to murder them just to show them how wrong they are. He wasn’t looking for a way out, I’m sure he’s sad die fuhrer longer has use for him ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1190 "2026-01-27T21:14:07Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > die fuhrer **Der** Führer. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1191 "2026-01-27T21:19:32Z")
**Moderating:** @Duckster - your post continued a hijack that had already been moderated a mere 5 posts after the one you quoted. I’m giving the benefit of the doubt, that you jumped and replied without reading the rest of the thread, but that’s not a best practice either - especially a charged thread with a great deal of moderation to keep it on track. I’ve hidden the post in question, and repeat @What_Exit’s instruction to take discussion on alternate phrases for Trump’s actions to another or new thread. > **How to Reply as a linked Topic** > > Click Reply, in the upper left corner of the reply window is the reply type button, _looks like a curving arrow point to the right_. > > Choose **Reply as linked topic** and it starts a new thread. As an example, you can choose GD, IMHO or The Pit for it. > > That is actually the best method. The next time I see this subject come up, I will likely issue a Warning. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1192 "2026-01-27T22:40:05Z")
Noem has reportedly been taking orders from Miller. > **[Stephen Miller ordered Kristi Noem to say Alex Pretti wanted to 'massacre'...](https://www.rawstory.com/stephen-miller-alex-pretti-assassin/?utm_source=superhead)** > > White House aide Stephen Miller was reportedly behind false claims that slain activist Alex Pretti was planning to "massacre" law enforcement when federal agents killed him in Minnesota on Saturday.According to Axios, Miller ordered Homeland Security... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461.md?page=58) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461.md?page=60)