# The ICE shootings in Minneapolis (1/7/2026) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461 "2026-01-08T05:32:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1193 "2026-01-27T23:03:05Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Noem has reportedly been taking orders from Miller. Unsurprising. Miller remains puzzled that too many Americans are failing to understand that MIGHT MAKES RIGHT. He shouldn’t have to come up with these fictions about what the shooting victims “were planning”! Anyway, Trump gave a flat “NO” when asked today about firing Noem: [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5706927-live-updates-trump-minnesota-senate-dhs-minnesota-shutdown/](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5706927-live-updates-trump-minnesota-senate-dhs-minnesota-shutdown/) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1194 "2026-01-27T23:05:37Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Anyway, Trump gave a flat “NO” when asked today about firing Noem: So, I guess we can start counting down to her termination. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1195 "2026-01-27T23:08:03Z")
Supposedly Trump hated all the news stories about the firings and office-leaving in his first term. And there were a _lot_.\* So I’m guessing he may still hope he can find a new distraction to turn public attention away from Noem. (Lookout, Cuba!!!1!!!) \* [List of dismissals and resignations in the first Trump administration - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dismissals_and_resignations_in_the_first_Trump_administration) ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1196 "2026-01-27T23:25:45Z")
The ole _ **Just following orders** _ defense. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1197 "2026-01-27T23:34:21Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Unsurprising. Miller remains puzzled that too many Americans are failing to understand that MIGHT MAKES RIGHT. Miller really, really wanted a Reichstag fire and a Kristallnacht. Instead they got Freedom Riders and Emmett Till. I’m cautiously optimistic, for the first time in more than a year, that we’re going to survive this. Hoping we get Nuremburg, or at the very least a Truth and Reconciliation Commission. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1198 "2026-01-27T23:42:18Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > This is a search for scapegoats. Bovino now, likely Noem later. Maybe Miller but I think that’s too much to hope for. I agree. I’m not sure why Bovino was the one chosen to be thrown under the bus rather than, say, Tom Homan, but I imagine it was because Bovino was the tactical guy in the field and the most dispensable. All the goons sitting in Washington who actually enabled all this have plausible deniability because, like, they were in Washington and not in Minneapolis. Miller is safe. He’s the prime mover behind the whole neo-Nazi movement. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1199 "2026-01-27T23:47:47Z")
I don’t think anyone will have the stomach for criminal trials for these people. Hopefully, they’ll be sued back to the Stone Age. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1200 "2026-01-27T23:48:17Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Miller is safe. He’s the prime mover behind the whole neo-Nazi movement. We’ll see. He might have been safe if he hadn’t put himself out there with his comments recently, but now that he’s not lurking in the shadows he might have put a political target on himself. Or not, I’m not sure. The fact that he and Noem are being targeted by people demanding their dismissal might be a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1201 "2026-01-28T01:10:47Z")
The ICEStapo tried to break into the Ecuadorian consulate today and were turned back. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:ejihld4sywvvqwe67cdkn4jq/bafkreicavpyl4cmc2qgernmqfi4zb7uhqkeawrjxdoak5wtynu5kxabtva@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:ejihld4sywvvqwe67cdkn4jq/bafkreicavpyl4cmc2qgernmqfi4zb7uhqkeawrjxdoak5wtynu5kxabtva@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1202 "2026-01-28T01:13:55Z")
Miller overplayed his hand. The local authorities were supposed to “surrender” and the white folks were supposed to stand by and let him carry out the ethnic cleansing he’s been dreaming about. Turns out that when you try to unleash fascist death squads into an American city, the response ISN’T “oh well, I wonder what’s on TV tonight”. And since Trump loses interest or backs down any time an operation doesn’t deliver 100% of what he wants right away, there’s a chance Miller might need to update his resume soon. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1203 "2026-01-28T01:14:19Z")
I wonder if the “agent” identified himself. If not, I’d prefer they say, “someone claiming to be an agent from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement…” ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1204 "2026-01-28T01:21:53Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > there’s a chance Miller might need to update his resume soon. There’s as much a chance of that as there is of Trump resigning. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1205 "2026-01-28T01:32:10Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Miller is safe. He’s the prime mover behind the whole neo-Nazi movement. Doesn’t matter. Trump only cares about Trump; if he feels like it he’ll fire Miller no matter what Miller or the neo-Nazis want. If anything, Miller being “important” that way is more likely to get him fired than any backlash from the shootings. Human life means nothing to Trump, but threatening his ego? _That_ matters. ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1206 "2026-01-28T01:38:10Z")
Well, there’s also the issue that Miller may have enough information on Trump to be safe from firing. There are plenty of others who could be sacrificed in his place. I highly doubt Trump would want his deputy chief of staff testifying against him. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1207 "2026-01-28T01:46:02Z")
> [@Disinfectus](#): > > Well, there’s also the issue that Miller may have enough information on Trump to be safe from firing. There are plenty of others who could be sacrificed in his place. That’s one reason why I don’t think it’s a given that Miller is out. I don’t think it’s a given for Noem either, but I think the odds are much higher for her. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1208 "2026-01-28T01:52:09Z")
Just now seeing footage of an attempted attack on Rep. Ihan Omar while she was speaking at an event in Minneapolis. [Here is a link to the story](https://www.mankatofreepress.com/news/state_national_news/man-tackled-to-ground-after-spraying-unknown-substance-on-rep-ilhan-omar-at-minneapolis-town/article_b1121601-d19f-523d-b7cc-d0f1983767a5.html) in the Mankato Free Press. The individual sprayed her with something but reports are she is okay. He was tackled and detained. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1209 "2026-01-28T01:53:24Z")
> [@Disinfectus](#): > > Well, there’s also the issue that Miller may have enough information on Trump to be safe from firing. Information that doesn’t implicate him as bad or worse, _and_ that Trump actually cares about? I have my doubts. Especially as his dementia becomes worse, you can’t blackmail somebody who is too crazy to care. I doubt that _anyone_ in the regime is safe from firing save for Trump himself. The issue relevant to the thread is, “is the backlash over the shootings enough to get Miller fired”, and that’s unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1210 "2026-01-28T01:54:03Z")
It’s all over the news. Here is just one article. > **[Minnesota Representative Ilhan Omar attacked during town hall meeting](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/28/minnesota-representative-ilhan-omar-attacked-during-town-hall-meeting)** > > Omar was sprayed with an unknown substance during the attack by a man, who was then tackled to the ground. It might merit its own thread, but it’s absolutely tied to the shootings in Minneapolis (aside from the fact that it took place there). > Just before the attack, she had called for the abolishment of the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency and for Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem to resign. > > “ICE cannot be reformed,” Omar said. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1211 "2026-01-28T01:54:47Z")
[_Stochastic terrorism: the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted._] ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1212 "2026-01-28T01:59:00Z")
> [@Disinfectus](#): > > Well, there’s also the issue that Miller may have enough information on Trump to be safe from firing. I’m sure Elon Musk thought the same thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461.md?page=61)