# The ICE shootings in Minneapolis (1/7/2026) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461 "2026-01-08T05:32:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1295 "2026-01-29T19:54:00Z")
**Moderating** and debating if it is time for a warning. This thread won’t stop going off-topic. I’m going to stick to a moderator note and spin-off. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1296 "2026-01-29T20:18:08Z")
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1297 "2026-01-29T20:24:45Z")
So I know it’s generally bad form to announce you’re leaving a thread, you should generally just leave it, but since I’ve been heavily involved and I feel like I’m being forced out, I thought this one might justify an explanation. I’m aware that I could ironically be warned for this exact post. Have fun guys. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1298 "2026-01-29T21:53:39Z")
And it’s gone international. Well, more international than foreign countries disapproving of what they see on TV already was. > **[US sending ICE unit to Winter Olympics for security, prompting concern and...](https://apnews.com/article/ice-milan-cortina-olympics-immigration-enforcement-us-110fa4b2066e1fb920dba2a71c3a89e0)** > > News that a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement unit will be present at the upcoming Winter Games has sparked confusion and concern in Italy. > Milan Mayor Giuseppe Sala said that ICE would not be welcome in his city, which is hosting the Feb. 6 opening ceremony to be attended by U.S. Vice President JD Vance, as well as most ice sports. > > “This is a militia that kills, a militia that enters into the homes of people, [signing their own permission slips](https://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-minneapolis-trump-00d0ab0338e82341fd91b160758aeb2d). It is clear they are not welcome in Milan, without a doubt,” Sala told RTL Radio 102. Rather ironic but fitting that the nation that was the birthplace of the CCNN, the [blackshirts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackshirts), is calling TFG out on his murderous militia. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1299 "2026-01-29T21:55:10Z")
Deleted my comment. Thought it was a new thread, but then realised it’s just another post in the Minneapolis thread that has nothing to do with Minneapolis. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1300 "2026-01-29T22:02:56Z")
They’re not engaging in law enforcement. They’re there because TFG wants them there, they’ve shifted to the position that they be there in an ‘advisory’ capacity only. And yes, it most definitely does have something to do with Minneapolis: > **[ICE Agents Threaten Italian Journalists Documenting their Activities in...](https://lavocedinewyork.com/en/news/2026/01/25/ice-agents-threaten-italian-journalists-documenting-their-activities-in-minnesota/)** > > Two Italian journalists were threatened by Immigration and Customs Enforcement during their coverage of the federal agency’s activities in Minneapolis, Italy isn’t too thrilled that the same goons who were threatening their journalist in Minneapolis are/were going to be in their country for unclear reasons during the winter Olympics. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1301 "2026-01-29T22:46:11Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > They’re not engaging in law enforcement. They’re there because TFG wants them there, they’ve shifted to the position that they be there in an ‘advisory’ capacity only. > > And yes, it most definitely does have something to do with Minneapolis: Yes, the Italian response has a great deal to do with what happened to those journalists in Minneapolis. Anyway, we know from Pam Bondi’s letter to Governor Walz that ICE are in Minneapolis to extort Walz into giving the Trumpites control of the 2026 election. Not very mysterious. They may not be “law enforcement,” but they certainly are “enforcers” in the organized-crime sense. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1302 "2026-01-29T23:27:11Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > we know from Pam Bondi’s letter to Governor Walz that ICE are in Minneapolis to extort Walz into giving the Trumpites control of the 2026 election. Not very mysterious. It’s appalling how egregious and open all this lawlessness is, and yet, seemingly, nobody in Congress or the Supreme Court cares. If anyone doubts that fascism is in the offing, doubt no more. Or just look at Stephen Miller. All that’s missing is the traditional swastika. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1303 "2026-01-30T00:10:17Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > seemingly, nobody in Congress or the Supreme Court cares. That’s really unfair to the members of Congress and the Court who obviously care. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1304 "2026-01-30T00:44:12Z")
So as not to perpetuate a hijack, I will point out this post: > [@Discussion regarding Democrats forcing a shutdown over ICE overreach (2026 ICE shootings)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-regarding-democrats-forcing-a-shutdown-over-ice-overreach-2026-ice-shootings/1027058/90): > > Been away all day but it looks like they struck a deal: Senate Democrats have struck a deal with Republicans and the White House to pass five spending bills to fund a large portion of the government for the remainder of the fiscal year, as well as a stopgap measure to fund the Department of Homeland Security for two weeks while they continue negotiating guardrails to rein in immigration agents. So the stopgap is two weeks. When the two weeks run out then DHS would not get it’s funding and s… And suggest maybe going there if people want to talk about nobody caring in Congress. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1305 "2026-01-30T02:05:21Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > So as not to perpetuate a hijack, I will point out this post: You are correct- the Dems in the Senate care. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1306 "2026-01-30T06:24:25Z")
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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1310 "2026-01-30T08:15:17Z")
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1315 "2026-01-30T08:48:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Troll’s quote removed by @What_Exit It is more clear that the bruise was more the fault of the ICE goon than the driver, on top of that, the past narrative from the right wing sources runs into the fact that the shooter was treated and released the same day from the hospital, in other words, more into the territory of **self-created jeopardy.** It is against standard law enforcement training and policy for officers to intentionally place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle to create a justification for using deadly force. Such an action can be considered “self-created jeopardy” or a “dangerous decision” that may render a subsequent use of force unjustified. > **[Police Officer Use of Force and Officer-created Jeopardy After Barnes V....](https://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/faculty_publications/1801/)** > > On May 15, 2025, the Supreme Court issued a unanimous decision in Barnes v. Felix, rejecting the Fifth Circuit’s “moment of threat” doctrine, which limited courts assessing the reasonableness of a law enforcement officer’s use of force to considering... [https://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3057&context=faculty\_publications](https://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3057&context=faculty_publications) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1316 "2026-01-30T09:03:17Z")
It’s almost as if we knew what we were talking about isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1317 "2026-01-30T09:24:46Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > It is more clear that the bruise was more the fault of the ICE goon Have we seen evidence that he was bruised? I missed that. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1318 "2026-01-30T13:35:14Z")
They’ve arrested Don Lemon due to protest in MN. > **[Former CNN anchor Don Lemon taken into custody, sources say](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/don-lemon-in-custody-former-cnn-anchor-sources-say/)** > > Former CNN anchor Don Lemon is in police custody in Los Angeles, multiple sources, including a person familiar with the arrest, told CBS News on Friday. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1319 "2026-01-30T13:43:52Z")
With the new Pretti video, Trump has pivoted back to calling him an agitator and insurrectionist. The only thing he hasn’t outright said is that he deserved to die. I’m guessing that comes out soon. [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/30/us/trump-alex-pretti-agitator-minneapolis-shooting-ice.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.IVA.7jBa.JBrGNtoI5zaP&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/30/us/trump-alex-pretti-agitator-minneapolis-shooting-ice.html?unlocked_article_code=1.IVA.7jBa.JBrGNtoI5zaP&smid=url-share) ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1320 "2026-01-30T13:52:23Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > They’ve arrested Don Lemon due to protest in MN. WTF? Wasn’t he simply doing a news story? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/1321 "2026-01-30T13:55:06Z")
Yeah, I don’t think that’s legal anymore. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461.md?page=64) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shootings-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461.md?page=66)