# The idea of women faking orgasms

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 4, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762 "2012-03-04T22:45:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/61 "2012-03-25T17:46:10Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> I generally go with one of my favorite quotes from The Jerk
> 
> “Oh yeah? Well I faked mine too!”

[nitpick]

That’s from _All Of Me_.

Peggy (Madolyn Smith), Roger’s (Steve Martin) girlfriend, gets mad and breaks up with him in his office, and ends her list of problems with him by telling him she faked all her orgasms. She then gives a vocal performance of a fake orgasm, and storms out of the office. As the doors close, Roger yells “Oh yeah! Well I faked mine too!”, fading out a little with each word, as he realize how ridiculous what he’s yelling actually is.

Grats on remembering a great line, tho. 🙂

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> [@Lunar\_Saltlick](#):
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> I’m not sure that was in _The Jerk_. Given the thread, it’d be funny if it was, but I recall that line from _All of Me_, which I put up there with _Groundhog Day_ and _Christmas Story_ as a film that will eventually have its day and find its audience. Not a great film, by any means, but very enjoyable nonetheless.

Indeed, it’s a terrific movie and you were right that the quote came from it.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/62 "2012-03-25T18:58:18Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Everyone who thinks treis has been fooled raise their hands?

Can I put my hand down now?

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**Author:** ![overlyverbose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9dc877/32.png) [@overlyverbose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/overlyverbose)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/63 "2012-03-25T19:33:32Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> Yanno, the idea of women faking orgasm is as disturbing as, oh, men lying about how much money they make. Or politicians lying about pretty much anything.
> 
> People lie. It’s an imperfect world. What ya gonna do?

This is what I was thinking. Sometimes it happens. I don’t do that with my husband (I’m secure enough to ask for what I want and I’m not going to fuck anyone else, so I’d better speak up), but when I was younger and wanted to be doing something else or was with someone who had apparently watched more porn than they had actually had sex, yeah I’d fake it to get it over with.

Faking an orgasm is not hard - just contract, release, contract, release rhythmically and make all the right sounds and movements. Even if they thought I was faking, I’ve never had a guy call me out on it. They probably didn’t care or were too embarrassed to ask.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/64 "2012-03-25T20:29:07Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> So the flush occurs in half of women, sometimes, during \*any \*phase of arousal, and sometimes disappears 2 hours after orgasm.  
> I don’t understand why this is something to “trust” as evidence that a woman has had an orgasm.

Well, if a woman does get the blush on her chest, you know at least that she did get aroused. It is very visible and can’t be faked, unlike vaginal spasms. Of course, is she doesn’t get the flush, that doesn’t tell her lover anything.

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**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/65 "2012-03-26T02:08:50Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> As far as I can tell in my career of giving women orgasms, including my wife who sad to say is not going to lie to boost my ego ☹
> 
> 1.There is no way to tell when a woman has an orgasm \<snip\>
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> 2.Women do have a refractory period in my experience, or at least a period following an orgasm where sexual stimulation starts being uncomfortable and borderline painful.

SOME women get too sensitive to be touched after orgasm. Some (most?) don’t. I don’t know the exact metrics, but this looks like a job for _ **SCIENCE!!** _

Women who do become too sensitive post-orgasm DO in fact have a pretty reliable indicator of when they’ve had one. It usually goes something like “Augh! \<hysterical giggle\> Stop! No more! Too sensitive!!”

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You’d think knowing that it was just her unusual sensitivity, as opposed to my awesome lovemaking, would lessen the ego rush of having reduced her to begging and hysterical giggles. Oddly, that was not the case.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/66 "2012-03-26T02:12:17Z")

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> [@Norse](#):
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> I’m terribly, terribly sorry that I wasn’t fully aware that “neither” means “none of two and only two”, not “none of more than two”. My deepest apologies for not having total knowledge of all nuances of the English language.
> 
> In case you haven’t noticed, some of the posters on this board know English as a _second_ language. Or did you know that, but just couldn’t pass on the chance for a really, really funny snark? 'Cos it was sooo funny :rolleyes:

In correct English usage “neither,” “either,” “both,” and “couple” always and only refer to/compare two [somethings], so that’s how they’ll be interpreted by most people. Unfortunately you’ll meet a lot of native speakers who haven’t grasped this…

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**Author:** ![truthbot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@truthbot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthbot)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/67 "2012-03-26T02:25:33Z")

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I once feigned watching an episode of Seinfeld. I’m just that good.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/68 "2012-03-26T06:21:45Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> Well, if a woman does get the blush on her chest, you know at least that she did get aroused. It is very visible and can’t be faked, unlike vaginal spasms. Of course, is she doesn’t get the flush, that doesn’t tell her lover anything.

Yeah but getting aroused and having an orgasm are different things.

The guy for whom I faked was one of those who get their notions of orgasms from yell-your-lungs-out porn: he didn’t believe my silent orgasms the few times I was able to have one during intercourse with him, during sex his blood did not reach his ears and any attempts to talk about sex outside of bed drove the blood down. No, we didn’t last long.

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**Author:** ![wheresmymind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/91b2a8/32.png) [@wheresmymind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wheresmymind)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/69 "2012-03-26T06:33:25Z")

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> [@Norse](#):
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> I’m terribly, terribly sorry that I wasn’t fully aware that “neither” means “none of two and only two”, not “none of more than two”. My deepest apologies for not having total knowledge of all nuances of the English language.
> 
> In case you haven’t noticed, some of the posters on this board know English as a _second_ language. Or did you know that, but just couldn’t pass on the chance for a really, really funny snark? 'Cos it was sooo funny :rolleyes:

Hey, no need to get upset. Of course I’m aware that lots of posters here aren’t native English speakers. In my defense, your post was written in perfect English by internet message board standards, so I had no reason to think that English wasn’t your first language. So no, I didn’t know that, it never entered my mind. I wasn’t making fun of you for not realizing what “neither” means, I actually assumed you knew the correct definition. And you have to admit, a person claiming your level of expertise after having sex with 2 women is worthy of snark.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/70 "2012-03-26T12:40:50Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> Well, if a woman does get the blush on her chest, you know at least that she did get aroused. It is very visible and can’t be faked, unlike vaginal spasms. Of course, is she doesn’t get the flush, that doesn’t tell her lover anything.

What about those of us you need to be in a pitch black room because we are totally disgusted by naked flesh? Or is that just me?

But seriously, not a great indicator since often lighting isn’t exactly how you would find it in a lab and many women actually have a skin tone which makes any kind of blush harder to notice.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/71 "2012-03-26T14:28:25Z")

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> [@Ura-Maru](#):
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> SOME women get too sensitive to be touched after orgasm. Some (most?) don’t. I don’t know the exact metrics, but this looks like a job for _ **SCIENCE!!** _

Again, more accurately, some women, _sometimes_, get too sensitive to be touched after orgasm.

I had a great night last night (not-so-stealth brag). I lost count somewhere around 8. All consecutive, with minimal refractory periods (some so fleeting that you wouldn’t have noticed them if you weren’t me) during which more touching was very much welcomed. It wasn’t until after the last one that the “too sensitive to be touched anymore” moment happened.

Other nights, I might be too sensitive to be touched after one. Or, on horribly horribly frustrating nights, my orgasm can get “stuck”, and I can go from, “ohyesohyesohyesoh…oh…shit. Ain’t happening hon,” and I get too sensitive to be touched without having an orgasm at all!

Bottom (hee-hee!) line…just talk to your women. Pay attention. Understand that there are no hard and fast rules - not for all women, not even for one woman. Don’t get upset or angry when something that rocked her world last week annoys her or hurts this week. Our sexual wiring is so complex that even we can’t predict it sometimes. Just be patient, and communicate with us and love us and eventually we’ll have lots of fun together.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/72 "2012-03-26T15:50:31Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Again, more accurately, some women, _sometimes_, get too sensitive to be touched after orgasm.
> 
> I had a great night last night (not-so-stealth brag). I lost count somewhere around 8. All consecutive, with minimal refractory periods (some so fleeting that you wouldn’t have noticed them if you weren’t me) during which more touching was very much welcomed. It wasn’t until after the last one that the “too sensitive to be touched anymore” moment happened.
> 
> Other nights, I might be too sensitive to be touched after one. Or, on horribly horribly frustrating nights, my orgasm can get “stuck”, and I can go from, “ohyesohyesohyesoh…oh…shit. Ain’t happening hon,” and I get too sensitive to be touched without having an orgasm at all!
> 
> Bottom (hee-hee!) line…just talk to your women. Pay attention. Understand that there are no hard and fast rules - not for all women, not even for one woman. Don’t get upset or angry when something that rocked her world last week annoys her or hurts this week. Our sexual wiring is so complex that even we can’t predict it sometimes. Just be patient, and communicate with us and love us and eventually we’ll have lots of fun together.

Braggart

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/73 "2012-03-26T15:51:03Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Braggart

Hell yeah! Wouldn’t you? 😉

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/74 "2012-03-26T18:04:26Z")

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How can you be sure a woman has had an orgasm? The taste changes.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/75 "2012-03-26T18:10:15Z")

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> [@Lunar\_Saltlick](#):
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> I’m not sure that was in _The Jerk_. Given the thread, it’d be funny if it was, but I recall that line from _All of Me_, which I put up there with _Groundhog Day_ and _Christmas Story_ as a film that will eventually have its day and find its audience. Not a great film, by any means, but very enjoyable nonetheless.

“I’ve got the whole cast of _Gone With the Wind_ humping in my head!”

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/76 "2012-03-26T21:16:41Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> How can you be sure a woman has had an orgasm? The taste changes.

Of her cooking?

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-idea-of-women-faking-orgasms/614762/77 "2012-03-27T03:30:51Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> I’m talking that, for a particular woman, some of her orgasms will be associated with spams and some will not.

I could forward some of my emails from Nigerian princes…

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